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post #1 of 10 Old 09-02-2016, 11:08 PM Thread Starter
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NY-LA solo trip. Seeking help and advice!

Hi everyone, I haves used this site various times over the years to seek advice
With various questions but now comes the time I need to ask some questions and could use some advice on anything. A little background with my riding, I started riding when I was 19 in 08 on a 600 katana to get a feel for it and after about a year and 10k miles on the katana sold it and got the 09 zx6 and fell in love. I'm 6'1 175lbs and the bike fit like a glove.. After 3 years and 24k miles on that I decided to trade it in before it wasn't worth selling so basically traded it in for the 2012 Zx6 which is literally the same exact bike which I'm sure you know. Since then I'm just over 18000 miles on it now. Bringing me to about a total of 52,000 or so miles, all of which consists of roads as Far East as Manhattan and as west to the hamptons and everywhere in between.. So one day as realized I have enough miles to circumvent the earth twice, yet haven't left the island? It infuriates me because I know what I'm missing out on, and that the roads on the island what seems all of New York are horrific and takes away a lot of the fun sometimes..

So I'll list rough path I plan to take with expected detours and multiple days stayed and like I said any pointers or opinions are appreciated on past experiences. I'll list my questions and possible concerns after.
Long Island NY- Clarion,PA. 350 miles Est time. 5.5 hours
Clarion- Cincinnati Ohio 350 miles
Cincinnati- St. Louis , MS. 350 miles
St. Louis- Kansas City , ms. 250 miles. 4 hours
Kansas City -Colby, KA. 375 miles 5 hours
Colby- Denver. 234 miles. 3.5 hours
Denver- Moab Utah 350 miles
Moab - mesquite NV. 375 miles. 5.5 hours
Mesquite- RAchel Nevada 150 miles 2.5 hours
Rachel- Las Vegas 150 miles 2 hours
Vegas - LA. 271 miles 4 hours
(Potentially wanna get Death Valley park on there maybe after Rachel )

I tried to be realistic with how many miles I would do daily and tried to keep it at an estimated 5 hours of driving a day to give me to to explore stop sight see and so forth. Now I do plan on getting motels most but I do intend on bringing a tent and telescope to get some astrophotography because the light pollution in NY is horrific. This brings up one of the first of my concerns, how safe is it to be pitching tents by myself in campsites being alone, knowing that makes me more of a target. Not so much as worries about the bike because it has LoJack and a gps tracker in the subframe but worried about physchos in the middle of no where when I would be armed with no more than a small knife which I would never want to use. I know people who have done it but always on groups of at least 2 so the solo factor adds a little of worry.. From my experience people are 1000x nicer once you leave New York in general but there are always fucked up people out there trying to take advantage, and I could very easily end up in a place that I think looks nice and safe yet just be in the wrongneck of the woods. So any advice on places that I may want to avoid or places that are cool along the way feel free to let me know.


The next biggest thing that I wonder and worry about for this adventure is the gas. The tank is 4.5 gallons and I get fairly good mileage on it but what I'm worried about most is the availability of 90+ octane gas in some of the less densely populated states. Because of this I routed most of the trip according to major highways and interstates hoping and assuming there would be a gas station about every 100-120 miles or so which once again I assume there must be with main highways like that.. But I know some stations by me don't carry supreme sometimes which is no big deal because there are gas stations almost every corner here in New York but god forbid I pull up in Kansas or some very remote place they may not have any and I would assume I'd be fucked. Because of that I'm fabricating little brackets that will hang under little saddle bags that will hold a one gallon cylinder gas tank on each side in case of emergency.. Because it almost seems inevitable that I will run out of gas somewhere between mesquite and Rachel Nevada so I will need spare gas.. Basically what I'm asking is what are your experiences from all over the country and am I crazy for worrying about this? I will more than likely have AAA just in case but I still wouldn't wanna be waiting for a tow truck in the desert. But even so is this still to much? Because if 90+ won't be a problem I could deviate more and hit some more of the twisty country roads instead of mainly interstate which is ideal because I will also have my fishing pole for many of the awesome lakes that I'm sure to come across, any of which you can suggest me seeing would also be awesome.

Those 2 were really my main concerns and I'm sorry about this novel but being thorough never hurt anybody. If you made it to this please help me out with anything you could to help prepare me for this. I'll be starting the trip prob April or May next year I just wanna really know what I'm getting myself into and be as prepared as I could for it. As always ride safe
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First off, I'll say it is awesome that you're planning a cross country ride, I'm very jealous and one day wish to do the same.
From reading this it seems like your only worries are about staying safe while camping and running out of gas and getting stranded.
For the first one I would say that it's extremely unlikely that you'll run into trouble if you're camping in a designated campsite and even then, if someone were to mess with you they would probably only be interested in stealing your bike (which you have taken care of) your money, or any other valuables on you. If you mean just finding some random back-road, pulling off and pitching a tent, I wouldn't do that since you would probably be trespassing and a lot of people don't take to kindly to that. If you're still worried about camping at a real campsite, you may try to exercise your second amendment right for more protection. If you can't/don't want to do that, then it is up to you to decide if the (very small) risk is worth it to you, if not then hotels all the time.
For the second, you seem to have a pretty good handle on planning for gas. I was reading this article earlier today, The OCD rider's guide to planning the perfect motorcycle trip - RevZilla , and it suggested planning the exact gas station you will stop at and calling them to make sure they have 91+ octane gas and will be open when you plan to get there. Other than carrying an extra bottle like you said you are, as well as having AAA and a cell phone, that's pretty much all I can think of doing.
Also I will say this is just what I though of off the top of my head, I've never been on a long distance, multi day tour so I don't have any real experience to offer. If you're looking for advice from someone who has actually done this, which I wouldn't blame you for, you might want to check out the ADV rider forum or even like a Harley Davidson or Honda Goldwing forum since people on there would probably know more about riding thousands of miles in a week than most sportbike riders.

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Hi everyone, I haves used this site various times over the years to seek advice
With various questions but now comes the time I need to ask some questions and could use some advice on anything. A little background with my riding, I started riding when I was 19 in 08 on a 600 katana to get a feel for it and after about a year and 10k miles on the katana sold it and got the 09 zx6 and fell in love. I'm 6'1 175lbs and the bike fit like a glove.. After 3 years and 24k miles on that I decided to trade it in before it wasn't worth selling so basically traded it in for the 2012 Zx6 which is literally the same exact bike which I'm sure you know. Since then I'm just over 18000 miles on it now. Bringing me to about a total of 52,000 or so miles, all of which consists of roads as Far East as Manhattan and as west to the hamptons and everywhere in between.. So one day as realized I have enough miles to circumvent the earth twice, yet haven't left the island? It infuriates me because I know what I'm missing out on, and that the roads on the island what seems all of New York are horrific and takes away a lot of the fun sometimes..

So I'll list rough path I plan to take with expected detours and multiple days stayed and like I said any pointers or opinions are appreciated on past experiences. I'll list my questions and possible concerns after.
Long Island NY- Clarion,PA. 350 miles Est time. 5.5 hours
Clarion- Cincinnati Ohio 350 miles
Cincinnati- St. Louis , MS. 350 miles
St. Louis- Kansas City , ms. 250 miles. 4 hours
Kansas City -Colby, KA. 375 miles 5 hours
Colby- Denver. 234 miles. 3.5 hours
Denver- Moab Utah 350 miles
Moab - mesquite NV. 375 miles. 5.5 hours
Mesquite- RAchel Nevada 150 miles 2.5 hours
Rachel- Las Vegas 150 miles 2 hours
Vegas - LA. 271 miles 4 hours
(Potentially wanna get Death Valley park on there maybe after Rachel )

I tried to be realistic with how many miles I would do daily and tried to keep it at an estimated 5 hours of driving a day to give me to to explore stop sight see and so forth. Now I do plan on getting motels most but I do intend on bringing a tent and telescope to get some astrophotography because the light pollution in NY is horrific. This brings up one of the first of my concerns, how safe is it to be pitching tents by myself in campsites being alone, knowing that makes me more of a target. Not so much as worries about the bike because it has LoJack and a gps tracker in the subframe but worried about physchos in the middle of no where when I would be armed with no more than a small knife which I would never want to use. I know people who have done it but always on groups of at least 2 so the solo factor adds a little of worry.. From my experience people are 1000x nicer once you leave New York in general but there are always fucked up people out there trying to take advantage, and I could very easily end up in a place that I think looks nice and safe yet just be in the wrongneck of the woods. So any advice on places that I may want to avoid or places that are cool along the way feel free to let me know.


The next biggest thing that I wonder and worry about for this adventure is the gas. The tank is 4.5 gallons and I get fairly good mileage on it but what I'm worried about most is the availability of 90+ octane gas in some of the less densely populated states. Because of this I routed most of the trip according to major highways and interstates hoping and assuming there would be a gas station about every 100-120 miles or so which once again I assume there must be with main highways like that.. But I know some stations by me don't carry supreme sometimes which is no big deal because there are gas stations almost every corner here in New York but god forbid I pull up in Kansas or some very remote place they may not have any and I would assume I'd be fucked. Because of that I'm fabricating little brackets that will hang under little saddle bags that will hold a one gallon cylinder gas tank on each side in case of emergency.. Because it almost seems inevitable that I will run out of gas somewhere between mesquite and Rachel Nevada so I will need spare gas.. Basically what I'm asking is what are your experiences from all over the country and am I crazy for worrying about this? I will more than likely have AAA just in case but I still wouldn't wanna be waiting for a tow truck in the desert. But even so is this still to much? Because if 90+ won't be a problem I could deviate more and hit some more of the twisty country roads instead of mainly interstate which is ideal because I will also have my fishing pole for many of the awesome lakes that I'm sure to come across, any of which you can suggest me seeing would also be awesome.

Those 2 were really my main concerns and I'm sorry about this novel but being thorough never hurt anybody. If you made it to this please help me out with anything you could to help prepare me for this. I'll be starting the trip prob April or May next year I just wanna really know what I'm getting myself into and be as prepared as I could for it. As always ride safe
Didn't read the entire post bc I have to go to work now, but where in LI? I live in Bay Shore if you ever wanna meet up for a ride.
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Are you really gonna go to Mesquite first, then go to Rachel before heading to Vegas? Seems like you'll be doing a lot of backtracking from Rachel to Lost Wages.

I'm guessing that you want to see some cheesy alien souvenir shops? Or maybe you've got relatives there? there's not much other reason to go to Rachel that I can think of.

But if you do find yourself out there on or around the ET Highway then you should keep an eye on fuel and probably stop whenever you see it available. There is definitely a full service gas station in Alamo on Highway 93 near the intersection of 375 which will probably take care of things. But if you decide to head from Rachel toward Tonopah then you should absolutely consider taking extra fuel - its 161 miles between Alamo and Tonopah and almost nothing in between.

Sounds like an awesome trip though. Hope you hold up well - that's a lot of miles but it sounds like you're young enough to still have a lot of cartilage and a full meniscus in your knees

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I'm jealous. Sounds like an awesome trip. One I'd love to do someday. I did a week on the ZX6 (link below) and you might find some tips that help you out:

ZX6R VA Mountain Run and Volunteering at MotoAmerica VIR

- 10$ waterproof bags were one of the best things I packed. Had dry storage for different sized items.
- Not mentioned in the report (Zeasorb powder for long rides. This will prevent chaffing and tearing. Not the same as baby powder).
- A cool item I picked up along the way: Original (ultra lightweight and great at keeping wind off your neck if it get's cool. watch their uses video, some cool ideas there.)

Also a good read for inspiration is here:

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Have fun and take lots of pictures!
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Damn, sounds like a crazy trip for a sportbike. I get tired just riding from LI to the poconos. But good luck with this trip though.


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Didn't read the entire post bc I have to go to work now, but where in LI? I live in Bay Shore if you ever wanna meet up for a ride.
Im in western LI, we should all set up a ride
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Damn, sounds like a crazy trip for a sportbike. I get tired just riding from LI to the poconos. But good luck with this trip though.




Im in western LI, we should all set up a ride
PM me your info and we'll set something up.
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I did NYC to Miami and then back to NYC 5 days later back in May on my 08 zx10 so I'll try to give you a few tips. The way down I stopped at a motel a bit further than halfway (in Georgia). The way back I stopped at a rest stop in Delaware or Maryland for about 3 hours to rest.

Be careful about how much gear you take. I only took a drawstring backpack and strapped it to the backseat with a cargo net which was fine...but there are times that I've gone a few hours with a duffel bag strapped to the back or a backpack and duffel bag and it gets extremely uncomfortable and hard to stretch out if needed.

Take basic maintenance tools:
A tire plug kit - I didn't take one or need it but I saw many vehicles pulled over on 95 with flat tires. I can't imagine blowing a tire at 2am with no exits anywhere nearby stranded on the side of a 70 mph highway with no street lights.
Chain lube - I absolutely destroyed my chain and had to get it replaced since I only lubed once the whole trip and never had any chances to readjust it.
Spare clutch cable? Another thing that probably isn't necessary but I've had a clutch cable snap before, and if there's no kawi dealership around you're probably screwed. It's cheap and easy to carry by just zipping it next to the working clutch cable
Phone charger - If you're listening to music or using GPS, and out camping, hook up a usb charger to your battery so your phone doesn't die.

Use gloves with good padding. I had a short cuff summer glove with me and a pair of race gloves. It was in the 90's and I ended up going with the race gloves because the padding in the palms was much more comfortable on the grips after a few hours.

I would also recommend some good ear plugs. I used an ear plug in one ear and downloaded podcasts to listen to with an ear bud in the other ear.

Lastly, waterproof gear just in case!

I'm sure there's more but that's all I can think of right now. And if anyone in the NY area wants to ride ever I'm in!

Edit - Damn, just realized this was posted a month ago and the guy never even replied to anything
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So I personally don't have any experience with products like these, but I know I've seen bottles of "octane booster" at the auto parts store. You could possibly use them to boost the octane of regular gas to make it safe for your bike. That way if you end up at a station that doesn't sell premium, you won't get stranded

But like I said, I personally haven't tried doing this myself, so I'd like to hear some feedback from the other forum members before you go out and plan on doing this during your trip.

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Make it to Indy,, I'll put you up.
Save one nights camping. Or just camp in the yard.

Make it to west coast,, you have to do the coast highway all I can say is fantastic.

I can post a link of my trip up the coast.
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