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post #1 of 19 Old 10-26-2016, 07:49 PM Thread Starter
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Radar with mount

Where do you buy the mount and how hard is it to wire radar to your bike. I've seen few guys around with them.
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Motorcycle Radar Detector Mounts - Techmounts

Feed radar from switched power from a power box or Eastern Beaver three circuit kit http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Wi...3_circuit.html

I tap into rear license plate light (gray wire) at the under seat connector by pushing an 18 gauge wire into the connector and run the sense lead back to the fuzebox. Tiewrap the sense lead to the normal leads.

I also use Radar Screamer audio alert http://motorcycleradar.com/radar_screamer.htm as the LED arrangement is not as sensitive as the audio tones.
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Motorcycle Radar Detector Mounts - Techmounts

Feed radar from switched power from a power box or Eastern Beaver three circuit kit 3 Circuit

I tap into rear license plate light (gray wire) at the under seat connector by pushing an 18 gauge wire into the connector and run the sense lead back to the fuzebox. Tiewrap the sense lead to the normal leads.

I also use Radar Screamer audio alert Radar Screamer as the LED arrangement is not as sensitive as the audio tones.

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post #4 of 19 Old 10-31-2016, 07:24 PM
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mAN HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN USING A RADAR AND IT WORKS FOR YOU ? I HAVE BOUGHT ALL THE BEST AND LATEST TECHNOLOGY LASERS IN THE 3 TO 4 HUNDRED PRICE RANGE SEVERAL TIMES AND GOT CLOCKED BY RADAR ON ALL OF THEM ?

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The guy I know that has one been using them for years and never has had a issue. I used one in my regular car and never had problems. What model do you have?
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i HAVE NOT BOUGHT ONE FOR 10 YEARS BUT WHEN I WAS BUYING THEM THEN I WAS GETTING LIKE THE DUAL BAND X AND K LASERS AND WHATEVER WAS THE LATEST GREATEST AND NONE OF THEM WORKED WHAT DO YOU RUN ?

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Don't bother with fancy displays, use a radar screamer instead

Escort Passport 8500X50 Black Radar Detector, Red Display <- great detection value

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I understood "technology" has moved on from Radar detectors, especially with "Average Speed check" cameras, plus mobile camera vans frequently moving location.

The best option turned to GPS camera detector units (that use a downloaded database of camera locations to alert you via your own GPS location, approaching these camera locations)?

Edit: Perhaps the trends or Police tactics in different countries is different.
(ie: Here in the UK, the GPS units seems to offer more complete "detection").
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I have Valentine One but I was wanting to put redline on the bike.
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I've had a handful of these Devices for the cars in the past. Great novelty to begin with, but then they lose their appeal - especially when you do the same journey week in, week out (to one place of work) - you then already know where the cameras are likely to be.

But if you are riding different locations on the bike, for work or pleasure, can understand the appeal.

Infact just following this Thread, there'd be a much bigger argument for these on a bike, as you are generally travelling faster than the traffic anyway - so a lot more likely to go through camera traps at speed.

The Valentine units are at the premium end of this market / most expensive? The last one I ran was a RoadAngel.
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Does anyone have any experience with radar jammers? Although I understand their usage is questionable in a lot of countries...
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Does anyone have any experience with radar jammers? Although I understand their usage is questionable in a lot of countries...
.....I work on a wide variety of military hardware. Electronic Warfare has been going on since the first electronic systems were implemented.

A simple jammer constantly broadcasts. This is the most effective/assured way of having your signal out there in the presence of the detecting system. If it's not there, it cannot override whatever it is the speed measuring system is using for a metric. What exactly it broadcasts depends on what it needs to make the receiving system do incorrectly.

If you don't know EXACTLY what you may be facing as far as a detection system, you have to broadcast on more of the spectrum to cover potential systems. If you don't know EXACTLY what detection method is being employed, you have to try and cover them all, from every angle, at all times.

This does not account for 'instant on' systems, laser based systems, or simple timing gate setups.

I have paid very little attention to what frequency bands are allocated to speed monitoring systems in the US, let alone internationally.

I stopped doing so because it is in my humble opinion a fool's errand. Detectors and jammers do nothing more than give you a false sense of security and make you think you have less probability of detection/prosecution. The difference is very small, between nothing and the very best you could do.

Simple observation of where the LEOs set up, the behavior of the commercial vehicles in your area, and restraint will do far more for your ability to co-habitate with other road users than trying to beat the system with electronic aides will.

A cruise control is by far the most effective speeding tool I have ever employed.

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Where do I start RJ?? Your post above has got to be the most comprehensive, plus fascinating, that I have read on the forum for a long time!

This could lead me on to so many additional questions, as its such an interesting topic for me, however elaborating on such jamming systems on a public motorcycle forum perhaps wouldn't be wise of me (as you don't know who might be watching/reading).

You obviously have a great career too, plus have direct interaction with alot of classified equipment, sounds a dream job?

There was quite a "famous" case here in the UK of a guy who was running a jammer in his car. He was able to speed past the Police on 3 separate occasions, each time, apparently blocking their equipment from taking a speed reading (however they DID get his number plate).

So after the 3rd time this happened, the Police made a visit to his house, and they took his vehicle away. It was then stripped down, bumpers off, trims all removed, interior taken out - and they located the jamming gear he had installed.

As a result he was issued a hefty fine, for "interfering directly with Police enforcement equipment", along with a suspended jail sentence.

However I believe speed camera detectors (even the direct radar detection type) are now legal to use in this country. Jammers illegal.

But because none of those can detect (digital) average speed cameras, and a few other types, GPS Database type "detectors", seem the most comprehensive, from a notification perspective.

As you indicate, common sense, plus road craft, will protect you far better than perhaps the false sense of security, running such a device.
But as a bike rider you tend to accelerate away faster than cars / also while overtaking... probably those seconds are when I'm likely to get zapped (would be just my luck)!
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The simple rules for managing your interactions with LEOs WRT excessive speed:

The number one rule: Do not ride faster than you can stop in the space that you can see. Sight lines are life lines. You have to be alive, to have any chance of a positive interaction.....

Never speed when you are the only vehicle on the road. Light traffic, is valuable 'cover'.
Never speed on highly congested roads..... too much traffic, and you risk accidents.
Never speed by more than a few MPH over the rate of travel of the vehicles around you.

Quiet bikes are able to go faster than loud ones. I have many years of direct observation to support this statement. Loud bikes draw attention.

Avoid excessive speed in areas with intersections. Crossing traffic is even more stupid than traffic 'going with the flow'.

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lol they wouldn't be on to tell you the story
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