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post #16 of 27 Old 01-03-2017, 01:58 PM
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I have used both, definitely prefer tailbag.

I used tankbag on a standard bike where you sit more upright and I felt that fully loaded, the bag got in the way with even casual riding. I couldn't imagine attempting on a supersport especially now that I always sit up on the tank in an aggressive style even when casual riding. I did however have a big tank bag, so I imagine a smaller tank bag might be a little better and not as bad.

Another thing that was really bad for me was the magnets. They always seem to pick up little scraps of metal or magnetic rock and I wound up scratching the tank of my first bike up pretty decently. I started to pull the magnets off individually rather then just grab the bag and go and this seemed to stop the scratching (along with checking to make sure the magnets were clean before installing) but obviously this would be a little bit of a pain in the ass.

When I got my first supersport, I moved to tailbag and loved it. I used the Kreiga bags, I think kerigausa.com or something. They were amazing. I think I had the smallest, Like the Us-10 or US-20 or something but they make bigger bags. You preinstall these little straps to your subframe and then the bag has hooks that you just hook into those straps. Was super convenient and a great system to throw the bag on and forget about it. Only negative I would complain about was that sometimes those little straps would slide back into the subframe under the seat, requiring you to remove the seat to fetch them. Wouldn't be too bad on a Kawasaki with a key open rear seat, but it was a true pain in the ass on my triumph that required an allen key to remove.

Additionally, tailbag is less accessible. So to basically get into it, I had to stop the bike and undo or at least loosen the straps. Where as a tank bag, could get into it at a red light or stop sign still on the bike.

At the end of the day, its probably more of personal preference.
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I am using Tech Aero Tank Bag | Alpinestars . Very happy with it, comes with 4 magets to stick it to the tank and very stable. its possible to expand it a bit for additional storage space. water proof zippers are of no use as the bag itself is not waterproof. There is a waterproof cover that comes along though. big advantage: the sleeve of the bag can be removed and can be attached with the magnetic base in case you want to use it only to put your gps or maps (without the bag itself). Quite happy with the quality too... btw, the bag turns into a back pack as well. It comes with belts to fix the magnetic layer - can be fixed on to the bike frame.

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I have used an older version of this:



Then I got older (and perhaps wiser) and my street bike became this:



Call me lame if you like but in the future I don't see me ever riding a bike on the street that doesn't have bags. They are just too damn convenient.
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I prefer a tank bag for my normal all day rides

I have ridden with a tailbag, tankbag and with both on several trips......

The tailbag does make getting on and off a little more challenging. The tankbag has the advantage of having a map pocket so you can have directions to glance at

I would never consider a backpack.........just too restrictive and too much weight on ones back all day

But yes........saddlebags are nice.........especially when attached to a Concours1400 with good suspension!!!

pics.....well becasue it is winter and it makes me feel better to see my bike, since at -6* I will not be riding anytime soon
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^^ a tail bag requires a change in how you mount the bike.... you have to bend the knee of the leg going over the seat, and thread that through first.

Your thoughts on this and mine are similar. Day to day, a small tank bag holds everything that would have to go in my pockets -- house keys, phone, wallet, spare gloves, glasses, etc.

There's enough room left over for lunch, too. Having all that stuff where you can easily reach it is the most convenient set up I have found. I have to show a badge at the gate when I ride in to work...... I can clip that inside the flap of the bag, and keep it secure there until I actually get to the gate and can pop it out one handed. It's funny, during the winter there's no way they can see any facial features at all.... FF helmet, balaclava, eyewear..... but they look at the badge, then peer into my eye port, and then approve my entry.

The bridge of my nose must be quite unique, LOL.

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Tailbag I have always found it easier to mount from the opposite side of the bike (non kickstand side) and just slide my left leg over the seat....... Sure I can kick my leg high enough to clear the tailbag most of the time (except when it is super stuffed or other shit is bungee corded to it making it too tall) but most the time..... I just mount from the right side of the bike.
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I use the model specific Kawasaki tail bag and love it. Fits the bike perfectly, and holds a lot of stuff. It's expandable, but I haven't needed to expand it for the kind of stuff I carry just running around town. Available at the Kawasaki website.
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I have used an older version of this:

I use Red Bull Signature Series version of this backpack, and because of the way it's made, the way it distributes weight, and it's shape, you don't even really notice it's there.

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I use the model specific Kawasaki tail bag and love it. Fits the bike perfectly, and holds a lot of stuff. It's expandable, but I haven't needed to expand it for the kind of stuff I carry just running around town. Available at the Kawasaki website.
Do you have a photo of this mounted on your bike?

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I've tried all three and found that it really depends on what you're looking to carry.

1. Backpack - Team Quattro Kawasaki bag I picked up at a British Superbike round. It holds a fair amount, but it does begin to get irritating on longer journeys. The straps can be a pain, but it's more the fact that the pressure in this position will make your back ache. Given that it was cheap, I'm not going to count it lasting forever either. I'm ex-Army and am more than a little familiar with carrying heavy packs.

2. Oxford Lifetime X30 tankbag - First piece of proper luggage I ever got. It expands to a decent size, the magnets attach in seconds, everything is right in front of you for easy access and the clocks are still visible even when filled. Not the cheapest item, but when Oxford say 'Lifetime', it appears to be a pretty accurate description. Shoulder straps are included which makes carrying it around less of a chore.

3. Oxford 50 Rolltop seat bag - This was a gift for Christmas, and not yet used in anger, but everything inside stayed dry on the 20 mile trek home in moderate rainfall. I'll be taking this with me on my [still in planning stages] trip from the UK through France to Madrid this summer. Plenty of capacity, but probably overkill for day to day unless you pack the kitchen sink and extra spare taps too.

If I had to pick one, it would probably be the tank bag. Holds a basket of groceries when expanded, doesn't give me a back ache, and even without the included interior waterproof sack, I've never had so much as a drop of water get inside.
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I have a tailbag. I don't like a backpack for weight/balance/comfort/safety. I don't really like a tankbag, it kinda gets in the way of where my chin and arms go.

My tailbag is a really cheap 'tactical' backpack and I put straps under the rear set that clip onto the pack and cinch down.

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For me it's all about Kriega. I try not to use a tank bag on my Ninja as I don't want it scratched. I tend to use a R15 backpack most of the time for bits if needed, it's just quicker to throw on. If I take the Mrs then she will wear an R25 instead. If it's a solo overnighter or I need to carry anything heavy then I'll use a a US10/US20 or a US-40 combo.

All of these options are from Kriega and they're all high quality, waterproof and don't effect riding at all. Highly recommended.
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