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post #46 of 61 Old 03-19-2015, 10:16 PM
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I think i will start out with just the bulbs. Are the projectors worth it?
From everything that I've been reading, to include what Steve says in the OP:

"The HID are HIGH INTENSITY DISCHARGE, they output a hell of a lot more light than a standard halogen. If you put this in a reflector... you will get whats called GLARE.

Glare is that light that escapes the normal direction of light on the road to all over the place and which causes other drivers/riders to be temporary blinded!

I'm sure as all bikers here you know that is not an ideal situation to be in!"

So if you're going the HID route, I recommend you buy a complete kit, or piece your own together but get everything you need and do it properly!!! I wouldn't want to blind oncoming drivers and risk a head on collision!

I finally decided to purchase the dual HID motorcycle kit from The Retrofit Source. I'll get some pics of the installation when they come in...
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So if you're going the HID route, I recommend you buy a complete kit, or piece your own together but get everything you need and do it properly!!! I wouldn't want to blind oncoming drivers and risk a head on collision!
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I actually prefer my HIDs without projectors because the projectors dont really light up the sides of the road....just the front. My HIDs on my bike dont have projectors and they light up my front AND sides very well.

It might blind oncoming cars a little bit...but Im sure theyre smart enough not to drive towards the light and crash into u.
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To each his own. I like the amount of light that comes off the bi xenon projectors. I'm just hoping with the setup I purchased that there will be enough light projected to the sides as well.
Personally I don't like the extra bright headlights of oncoming traffic so I do my best to give that same respect. I definitely don't want to be "that guy" continuously being flashed and blinded because I "upgraded" my headlights.

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So for the 99% of users reading this thread who want to convert from halogen to HID, what the OP is simply saying is we should look into changing the reflector as well as the bulb, right?

And 4300k is optimum for vision?
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So for the 99% of users reading this thread who want to convert from halogen to HID, what the OP is simply saying is we should look into changing the reflector as well as the bulb, right?

And 4300k is optimum for vision?
In a nutshell, yes. The HID is so bright that the flare from it is obnoxious without the extra focusing of a projector. 4300 comes closest to the color of a halogen bulb. Optimum for human eyes..... especially older human eyes.
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Thanks for this post. Great to see so much info in one place vs hunting for the knowledge myself without a reference point to start.
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So I'm on the ddm website and I don't know what kit to buy. I have a 08 zx6r. Do I get a ultra motorcycle kit or a ddm kit. From what I have seen they all only come with 1 bulb? Is there a 2 bulb kit? I'm sure this question has a simple answer I just can't find it. Thanks
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Here is some information about HID upgrade kits and their vices:

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i think this should be shared to the public! not just as bikers but for the god damn cagers as well who put their 12000k bulbs in reflectors and blind everyone !

thanks for the very informative post
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I actually prefer my HIDs without projectors because the projectors dont really light up the sides of the road....just the front. My HIDs on my bike dont have projectors and they light up my front AND sides very well.

It might blind oncoming cars a little bit...but Im sure theyre smart enough not to drive towards the light and crash into u.
then you are using the wrong projectors, or bulbs, or both. Cheap bulbs/projectors will give this result.

Not only is the blinding light from your HID's annoying for oncoming traffic, but it is dangerous as well, and it has nothing to do with 'not driving towards the light'.

If you want to do something that deals with safety, form and function, just do it right or don't do it at all.

I have been building retrofit headlights for several years, it's one of the first mods I've done in ALL my vehicles (my new 636 soon to come) and I have nothing but good things to say about TheRetrofitSource. They have all the expertise, and all the right/proper parts you need to get the job done.

For us Canadian guys, Will at Prolightz is a distributor for TRS and usually gives pretty competitive pricing on parts or if you want to spend more, full retro jobs.
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Yup...thats what this forum is for.
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OP, what is your opinion on the LED light bulbs in stock projectors.

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OP, what is your opinion on the LED light bulbs in stock projectors.

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again, those OEM projectors are not made for anything other than halogen bulbs. Putting HID or LED bumbs in there will still produce glare, an unclean cut off and will not maximize the light output of your upgrade. Not worth it in my opinion, better to get a proper setup if you want real upgrade in width, lighting, visibility.
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