removal front sprocket - zx6r 636 a1p 2002This is a discussion on removal front sprocket - zx6r 636 a1p 2002 within the Mechanical and Technical forums, part of the ZX6R Forum category; removal front sprocket - zx6r 636 a1p 2002
hi there i went to change the front sprocket of my bike this afternoon as im putting ...  |
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01-22-2012, 03:19 PM
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#1 | | Team Green
Joined: Dec 2010 From: North East, England Posts: 147 I Ride: 02 zx6r ninja 636 A1P | removal front sprocket - zx6r 636 a1p 2002
removal front sprocket - zx6r 636 a1p 2002
hi there i went to change the front sprocket of my bike this afternoon as im putting a sprocket set on. when i installed the chain previously i could not (did not want to) remove the front sprocket as when i removed the cover plate to access the front sprocket it became apparent that the previous owner had tried to remove the sprocket before and failed misserably he has morealess mawled my nut when he has tried to remove it before- the only cause of this i can think of is he has not use the right tools. please see pics.
i was not impressed after laying on my mind im wanting to give this a bash and finally get my new sprocket on has any1 got ideas to overcome this problem without causing any further damage?
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01-22-2012, 03:46 PM
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#2 | | Squid
Joined: Jan 2012 From: northern ireland Posts: 16 I Ride: kawasaki zx6r g2 |
try an impact socket mate and a big ass bar, a buzz gun might do more damage, an impact socket will get a snug grip
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01-22-2012, 03:49 PM
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#3 | | World Superbike Racer
Joined: Sep 2011 From: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 1,745 I Ride: 2009 Green ZX6R | Quote:
Originally Posted by wes NornIron try an impact socket mate and a big ass bar, a buzz gun might do more damage, an impact socket will get a snug grip | +1
Also could try heating it up with a torch of some sorts. May break loose a bit easier if its tight as hell.
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01-22-2012, 03:49 PM
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#4 | | World Superbike Racer
Joined: Apr 2008 From: St. Pete, FL Posts: 1,672 I Ride: 07' zx6r |
+2. I think its 90 ft lbs I think. I had to use a breaker bar/pipe and a impact socket.
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01-22-2012, 03:49 PM
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#5 | | Squid
Joined: Sep 2011 From: Ky Posts: 21 I Ride: 06 636 |
12 point socket with give u more grip since it is already rounded off some. Also u add some heat from the tourch.
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01-22-2012, 03:55 PM
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#6 | | World Superbike Racer
Joined: Apr 2008 From: St. Pete, FL Posts: 1,672 I Ride: 07' zx6r |
Make sure someone else is holding the bike while your untightening it! Just in case. Man that front sprocket is worn. Look at those teeth.
Last edited by Street Hawk; 01-22-2012 at 03:58 PM.
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01-22-2012, 10:48 PM
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#7 | | Pro Racer
Joined: Oct 2011 From: Atlanta Posts: 652 |
With the nut being in the shape that it is in you'll need all the help you can get. Heat will definitely help you out, it will help the metal expand and make it a little easier to get loose. That plus an impact socket and a long break bar will help make short work of it.
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01-22-2012, 11:09 PM
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#8 | | Superbike Champion
Joined: Mar 2011 From: Saint Augustine, Florida Posts: 1,077 I Ride: 2008 ZX6R P8F |
Go out there the night before... Put as lil penetrating oil on it.
Now... The fun part.
Here's what ya do... Ya get a big ole breaker bar, and a 12 point socket... 32 MM I think...
Attach the socket, pray it's not that loose. Attach big-ass bar... And heave in steady pulls... Don't get jerky, or the whole bike becomes unstable. Be sure and have someone standing by, next to the bike to keep her upright in ANY case. I have had too many bad experiences with power tools for bolt removal, so I refuse to use them. Impact guns, etc etc etc
But, if you even THINK you might do more damage.... Take it to the dealer, and let them deal with that shit. Yours is pretty rounded to risk on such a tight bolt......... If it feels loose, let them fight with it man. Trust me.
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01-22-2012, 11:24 PM
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#9 | | Track Star
Joined: Oct 2011 From: Santa Barbara Posts: 303 I Ride: 2003 ZX-6R 636 | Quote:
Originally Posted by 1NastyZ But, if you even THINK you might do more damage.... Take it to the dealer, and let them deal with that shit. Yours is pretty rounded to risk on such a tight bolt......... If it feels loose, let them fight with it man. Trust me. | +1, I recently changed mine, and after the socket slipped once, I put everything away and called the dealer. I was embarrassed taking it in for one stubborn bolt, but fuck it. Swallow your pride, because sometimes its just not worth the headache.
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01-22-2012, 11:28 PM
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#10 | | Pro Racer
Joined: Dec 2010 From: London, UK Posts: 663 I Ride: 2003 B1H, green LED's baby! |
Buy a new nut before you take that one off, or you'll have the same problem again
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01-23-2012, 04:21 AM
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#11 | | Track Star
Joined: Jul 2011 From: New Hampshire Posts: 380 I Ride: 05 ZX6R 636 |
I haven't seen that it was said, I could be wrong and I've made the same mistake. I believe the sprocket nut is reverse thread. That may be why the Po rounded it off. Good luck.
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01-23-2012, 04:33 AM
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#12 | | Team Green
Joined: Dec 2010 From: North East, England Posts: 147 I Ride: 02 zx6r ninja 636 A1P |
thanks for the help guys, ive just purchased a new lock washer and nuts.
its the nut reverse thread, havent looked through my haynes yet?
plus will heating up not damage any bearing behind etc?
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01-23-2012, 12:44 PM
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#13 | | MotoGP Champion
Joined: Nov 2008 From: Gilroy, CA, USA Posts: 2,583 I Ride: motorcycles |
The nut is not reverse thread. you don't need a stupid manual, look at the threads inside the hole. I can see it in the picture, its not. It it were reverse thread, hitting the throttle would loosen the nut.
Put the trans in neutral, put a piece of wood through the rear tire so that it holds the spoke in the wheel against the wood and the swing arm and prevents the wheel from moving. Have a friend hold the rear brake if you don't think the wood is enough, but it's a lot more than the rear brake is going to do.
You'll need an impact gun and the proper size socket. You have to shock it loose, torch and big pry bar works, but having a GOOD impact gun makes all the difference in the world. My roommate used to do all his by hand, I had my whole swing arm off, lubed, sprokets and tire hanged, and back together in the time it took him to hange his front sprocket one day; and that the day he went and bought his first air impact |
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01-23-2012, 12:52 PM
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#14 | | MotoGP Champion
Joined: Oct 2008 From: Walnut, Ca Posts: 2,646 I Ride: 07 ZX-6R street, 03 636 track | Quote:
Originally Posted by ZoomSplat You'll need an impact gun and the proper size socket. You have to shock it loose, torch and big pry bar works, but having a GOOD impact gun makes all the difference in the world. My roommate used to do all his by hand, I had my whole swing arm off, lubed, sprokets and tire hanged, and back together in the time it took him to hange his front sprocket one day; and that the day he went and bought his first air impact  | Yeah, the one we have apparently sucks donkey balls, b/c it wouldn't budge my sprocket bolt, I had to but a bar through the wheel and use a 4ft breaker bar.
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01-23-2012, 01:03 PM
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#15 | | Post Master General
Joined: Aug 2009 From: Looneyben escapee Posts: 8,364 I Ride: 2007 ZZR/ZX6R | Quote:
Originally Posted by ZoomSplat The nut is not reverse thread. you don't need a stupid manual, look at the threads inside the hole. I can see it in the picture, its not. It it were reverse thread, hitting the throttle would loosen the nut.
Put the trans in neutral, put a piece of wood through the rear tire so that it holds the spoke in the wheel against the wood and the swing arm and prevents the wheel from moving. Have a friend hold the rear brake if you don't think the wood is enough, but it's a lot more than the rear brake is going to do.
You'll need an impact gun and the proper size socket. You have to shock it loose, torch and big pry bar works, but having a GOOD impact gun makes all the difference in the world. My roommate used to do all his by hand, I had my whole swing arm off, lubed, sprokets and tire hanged, and back together in the time it took him to hange his front sprocket one day; and that the day he went and bought his first air impact  | Exactly! won't hurt to spray a little penetrating oil on it the night before, & get a new nut.
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