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Old 02-18-2012, 07:35 AM   #1
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Infamous Kawi Tick

Hey guys im the newb here in the forum. I have the infamous kawi tick but I think its alittle more than that. I have an 07 zx6r that ticks fairly loudly it has roughly 10k on it and its to the point that I think its what everyone is referering to the "Cam Chain Tensioner". Im coming to you because I hear you all are pros, as well, Kawi want to charge me 150 bucks to do a "INR" report/ just look at it and tell you whats wrong.
Here is my header install video that you can hear the tick pretty clearly.



Any feedback would be amazing!
Thank you!
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Old 02-18-2012, 07:41 AM   #2
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The CCT can become really loud, I doubt it's the valves being that it only has 10k on the clock. The only real way to know is to check the CCT and see if it's still adjusting, if it is the next step would be to check the valve clearance.
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Don't pay those fuckers anything...

.... Watchin ur vid now
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Old 02-18-2012, 07:44 AM   #4
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I "swore" I had serious top end problem and it turned out to be the usual cam chain tensioner issue. Never thought the cam chain could make that much noise. I put an APE manual cam chain tensioner on mine ($50 and 20 minutes to install) and it took care of my issue. After I pulled the automatic tensioner and realize exactly how it works I think I could have easily forced another click on the tensioner by removing the cap and spring and sticking a small screwdriver in and forcing another click. If my other ZX6R develops the same problem I will try that first before getting another manual tensioner. Anyway, it beats the hell out of riding around on an embarrassinglyi noisy machine.
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Old 02-18-2012, 07:48 AM   #5
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Now when I ride the bike its near impossible to hear. But that could be because the chain is spinning faster at hight rpms i would assume. I hear the Manual CCT is the best way to go, are they an easy install. The most I have done to the bike is the exhaust, the juice box and thats about it.
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Old 02-18-2012, 07:50 AM   #6
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Adjust the stock tensioner....invest in ape manual tensioner

Ur prob overdue for a valve adjustment... U need to at least check, inspect the clearances
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I have an '08 so the '07 should be the same and like I said, I did mine in 20 minutes. You don't have to remove anything to get to it except you have to pull the right side mid fairing back. I listed all the steps I did to remove/install mine in another post. I'll see if I can find it. Mine was the same way though. It was really bad on the first start of the day before it has been warmed up. Higher RPMs and a warm engine it wasn't that noticeable.
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Old 02-18-2012, 07:52 AM   #8
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Now here is the newb question, does anyone have a write up on how to tighten it? I really appreciate this.
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Old 02-18-2012, 07:53 AM   #9
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IMO if you're not mechanically inclined or are forgetful get an OEM replacement.
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Old 02-18-2012, 07:56 AM   #10
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hell bro u can ride it as as is like that without it creating any future problems or damaging anything for i would say roughly, and this is just an educated guess....you should be good for at least another 2 to possibly 2 and a half minutes (ballpark)..
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Here's what I did to install the APE:

Theoretically you should never have to adjust your tensioner because it is "automatic". Of course in the real world that automatic tensioner is a piece of crap. My cam chain was making all kinds of nasty noises and I finally replaced the automatic tensioner with a manual tensioner. It took me about 20 minutes and it got rid of all the cam chain noise completely. It was very easy to do on my bike ('08). Just had to pull the right side center fairing back (I didn't even remove it completely) and it is easy to get to. This is the manual tensioner I got for my '08:

ZX Zone - Cam Chain Tensioners

The stock tensioner is a spring loaded ratcheting device, that doesn't always ratchet when it should. I probably could have forced my automatic one another notch very easily by pulling the center cap bolt and spring out and using a small screwdriver to push the ratcheting mechanism one more notch (you would probably want to do this in a quiet location so you can hear the click as well as feel it). With the manual tensioner you can be very precise with the adjustment though so if you don't mind spending the 50 bucks that's a good way to go.

If you find some actual directions follow those but my new tensioner didn't come with directions and I couldn't find much on their web site. Here is how I installed mine for what it's worth:

Remove old automatic tensioner:
1) remove the center cap bolt and spring from the old tensioner
2) remove the 2 mount bolts from the old tensioner
3) remove the old tensioner from the engine

Install new manual tensioner:
1) Loosen the center adjustment bolt all the way and back the lock nut all the way to the head of the bolt.
2) Install the new tensioner
3) Install the two mount bolts and tighten bolts
4) Screw in the center adjustment bolt with fingers until you feel it get tight (finger tight, NOT gorrila finger tight), then back it off a little until it just gets loose again (1/4 to 1/2 turn)
5) Start the engine and you should hear your cam chain noise, if you don't then back the adjustment bolt off a little more until you hear the cam chain noise (not more than another 1/2 turn at most)
6) Now tighten the center adjustment bolt with fingers until the noise just barely goes away (while the bike is running). This should only take light to medium finger torque on the adjustment bolt by a weak human. Do NOT adjust the tension with a wrench or you will do major damage!
7) If you are comfortable with the adjustment then lock down the lock nut. Of course the lock nut should be tightened with a wrench but make sure the adjustment bolt doesn't turn when tightening the lock nut.

Again, you want to make sure you don't get it too tight, just barely tight enough to stop the chain noise. You definitely do not need a wrench for that, if you do then you have something more serious than cam chain noise. When I say finger tight I don't mean turn it as hard as you can with your fingers. It should only take light to medium torque with your fingers at most.

If you have the service manual there is a small section that tells you how to remove and install the stock tensioner (section 5-15 in my book).
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Now here is the newb question, does anyone have a write up on how to tighten it? I really appreciate this.
Adjusting auto cam tensioner

1 . Loosen the two small side bolts.. Top and bottom... Loosen do not remove
2. Loosen the big middle bolt.... Slightly back it out 1click.... Tighten everything
3. Start bike
4. Repeat as needed until she runs quiet

note:

If too tight chain will whine like a little bitch
If too loose...well u know
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anyone know what kind of pipe that is ??
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By the way, your noise sounds exactly like mine did before I replaced the CCT. You should notice it being louder on the right side where the cam chain is. It sounds like it was louder on the right side in your video. Also, take a look at the service manual as I said. There is a little section on removing/installing the stock tensioner. It's very small section with a picture and it is small because there isn't much to doing it.
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Old 02-18-2012, 08:09 AM   #15
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Thank you guys so verdict is to get a manual CCT and tighten it as instructed by zx6rrection and trackdayhero? This is much appreciated.
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