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post #1 of 34 Old 11-30-2016, 03:15 PM Thread Starter
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04 Electrical Issue

Hello,

Been having some issues lately with my 2004 ZX6R lately and wanted to see if you guys had any ideas. The bike battery will usually be flat dead after each ride. However, If I jump the bike, it will run until I turn off the engine. Once you turn off the engine after a ride it will be flat dead again and require a jump to be started. I have replaced the battery with a brand new one and the problem continues to occur.

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Once battery "dies" after a ride when starting up the bike it just gives the normal dead battery clicking sound.

Stator was replaced about 3 months ago...(however it was a cheap ebay stator...)

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Start the engine and measure the voltage at the battery terminals. What is it reading?
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Troubleshooting via the shop manual is the best way to avoid cost when facing this sort of problem.

What modifications to the electrical system are there on the bike?
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Start the engine and measure the voltage at the battery terminals. What is it reading?
Before starting,, after starting and at 2,500 rpm.
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Sorry about the late response guys, been busy with class.

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There has been no modifications to the electrical system besides introducing a integrated taillight. This was put on over a year ago and the electrical problem only started now.

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Just picked up a voltmeter and ill be measuring the output and posting the results as soon as possible
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"however it was a cheap ebay stator..."


well....may be the obvious answer right there. Hopefully not though that would suck. Never had any battery issues with my 04
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Before starting,, after starting and at 2,500 rpm.
This. Report back.

Volts DC need to change with rpm, if even only a little bit.

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Hello,

Been having some issues lately with my 2004 ZX6R lately and wanted to see if you guys had any ideas. The bike battery will usually be flat dead after each ride. However, If I jump the bike, it will run until I turn off the engine. Once you turn off the engine after a ride it will be flat dead again and require a jump to be started. I have replaced the battery with a brand new one and the problem continues to occur.

Additional Info:

Once battery "dies" after a ride when starting up the bike it just gives the normal dead battery clicking sound.

Stator was replaced about 3 months ago...(however it was a cheap ebay stator...)

Thanks!

-Mango
How many miles on bike? How many have you put on it since you bought it?

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Sorry about the delay guys! Been extremely busy with finals in college and some life events. Managed to get some time to work on the bike to report back to you guys though.

The bike has 27,000 miles, however the bike has been maintained well. Although my old voltmeter was faulty I think I have found the problem and come to accept my fate lol. From a few tests I can now report back some information, I decided to jump the bike so I could get some stabil in the gas tank for the winter. Jumped the bike and let it run for some time to get the gas through the system. I noticed towards the end, (once the cables were off the battery) the bike would start to die(Would never die if always plugged in with jumper cables). I also jumped it again just to make sure and it slowly started to die once more, however this time I by accident beeped the horn and it instantly died. (Things like this normally happen with this electrical issue... using the horn... Applying the "electric choke" thing the 04's have... all these actions will usually just instantly kill the battery when its low.) So this is leading me to saying the cheap ebay stator is shot?

I did see however when I rev'ed the engine the headlights would get brighter...

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Sorry about the delay guys! Been extremely busy with finals in college and some life events. Managed to get some time to work on the bike to report back to you guys though.

The bike has 27,000 miles, however the bike has been maintained well. Although my old voltmeter was faulty I think I have found the problem and come to accept my fate lol. From a few tests I can now report back some information, I decided to jump the bike so I could get some stabil in the gas tank for the winter. Jumped the bike and let it run for some time to get the gas through the system. I noticed towards the end, (once the cables were off the battery) the bike would start to die(Would never die if always plugged in with jumper cables). I also jumped it again just to make sure and it slowly started to die once more, however this time I by accident beeped the horn and it instantly died. (Things like this normally happen with this electrical issue... using the horn... Applying the "electric choke" thing the 04's have... all these actions will usually just instantly kill the battery when its low.) So this is leading me to saying the cheap ebay stator is shot?

I did see however when I rev'ed the engine the headlights would get brighter...
Prop up gas tank. Unplug 3 prong plug bewteen stator and reg/rec. Set dmm to volts Ac. Start bike. Test voltage between all 3 leads to each other. A-B, A-C B-C. Order does not matter. You should get same voltage for all 3 readings AND it should go up with rpms. About 42V at 2-3k. Same voltage is what you're looking for.

Then test each lead for ohm continuity between it and engine ground. You should get no continuity.

If any of these fail, you have a bad stator.

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Before you toss good money after bad.. Determine what the actual cause or cause's.

Doing laggy311's test will prove IF stator is good.
If stator good, then is regulator working. Only way to test regulator is checking it's output.
Voltages will tell the tale.

IMO, never cheap out it's not worth the hassle also confirm EVERYTHING else is working.
A shorted cell in the battery can cause undo load on the regulator causing it to die prematurely.
Voltage regulators that aren't working can boil batteries over and drain a battery while off.

Get a meter, check voltages like I suggested and do laggy311's test.
This should give us enough information to determine what's broke.
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Apologies for the slow responses guys, but I extremely appreciate all the help from everyone! I got time to do some tests with my meter and here are the results:

Before Starting Engine: 9.556V
After Starting Engine: 11.53V
Revving to 2.5k - 3k RPM: 11.53V

Volts didn't go up a single bit... does this mean its 100% sure my stator? Or will I have to unplug it and measure the lines as laggy said?

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I know that anything under 12V's on a battery means a shot battery, however as I stated before this issue continued to occur after purchasing a brand new battery. Its currently -9 degrees and the bike had to be hooked up to my car for the tests to be even conducted, I understand that from that one reading you guys might say that its a bad battery however, its just severely undercharged and needs to be put on a tender. But from those tests what I am aiming at showing is that the volts didn't go up at all with higher rpms.

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It could be either your stator or voltage regulator. Perform the stator test as Laggy described. If u need clarification, let us know.
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