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post #16 of 35 Old 04-11-2017, 07:00 AM Thread Starter
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wow. this is a mess in here. Lets start with the basics: We know it runs so it is not spark related. It is either starving for fuel or has restricted air. Since you left the bike outside you will need to get to your air filter/airbox and make sure that you do not have a nest in there. Unlikely but easiest to rule out.

Most likely fuel related. What year is the bike?
bike is a 05!
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Most likely fuel related.
I agree. It sounds like it's fuel related.

I'd start with fresh gas and validating that that air flow is good.

(However, I've never had a tip over sensor issue, so based on the responses you probably want to look at that too.)
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have you checked your idle adjuster? your idle adjuster could just need to be increased. if the idle is set too low, the bike usually dies once you twist the throttle. That's what happened to me last week when I took mine out of storage. my idle was too low.
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It's not the tip-over sensor. If there's an issue with that it just won't start at all. It sounds like it's likely a fueling issue.
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To understand what is causing the issue we have to understand what happens when you twist the throttle. The basics we know is that twisting the throttle either mechanically or electronically lets the injectors know to start injected more fuel as well as increasing the airflow. If either of these is off balance (too lean or too rich) your bike either starves for air, or thirsts for fuel and dies. How long was it in storage/idle? Did you put any kind of fuel stabilizer? Are your injectors clean? What does your air filter look like?
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Yes it will start with a tip over sensor issue(unplugged ask me how i know). But will die after a few seconds of running and then the fi light will flash on the cluster.
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To understand what is causing the issue we have to understand what happens when you twist the throttle. The basics we know is that twisting the throttle either mechanically or electronically lets the injectors know to start injected more fuel as well as increasing the airflow. If either of these is off balance (too lean or too rich) your bike either starves for air, or thirsts for fuel and dies. How long was it in storage/idle? Did you put any kind of fuel stabilizer? Are your injectors clean? What does your air filter look like?
Ok, so today my dumbass went to check the gas. I charged up my battery and went down to try something out. Same thing happened, turns on for 1 second and dies. So, I'm thinking since i left my bike out water got in the gas so I pick up the tank and take the wire off that holds the gas. You guys know the one with the orange tab looking thingy? Kind of plastic orange piece that closes into were the gas sprays? So, Like an idiot I didn't know turning my key would spray gas out...... I didn't turn the bike just switched the key to were you here the whinning sounds and man gas sprayed out like a mother fer. Seeing this happen can itnstill be a gas problem? The gas was shooting out fine IMO. The year before when I stored my bike I just had a full gas tank, this year not at all. WHAT THE HELL SHOULD I DO? 🙄
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I agree. It sounds like it's fuel related.

I'd start with fresh gas and validating that that air flow is good.

(However, I've never had a tip over sensor issue, so based on the responses you probably want to look at that too.)
sorry i'm seriously a noob when it comes to motorcycle mechanics.. How do I check for a clear air flow? Any vids you guys can guide me
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I think at this point you're making matters worse. Just take it to someone that knows what they're doing.
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I think at this point you're making matters worse. Just take it to someone that knows what they're doing.
I don't trust no one. If the problem gets fixed I'll probably end up paying 500+.. Hate to sound cheap but don't feel like doing that. I believe I can fix this as I use to fix the clutch and transmissions on cars. I just never dealt with motorcycle stuff. I just need the right guidance on how to clean the gas lines.
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*Doesnt sound like the fuel pump is your problem since u said it shot out fuel like a mofo.
*Check your air intake tubes/airbox to make sure no rodents built a nest in there.
*Check your spark plugs...hows the condition? Getting a good spark when u crank? (Dont shock yourself)
*Check your throttle bodies to make sure they open when u give it throttle. Check subthrottle bodies do the same.
*Remove the airbox and look down into the throttle bodies with a flashlight, are the injectors spraying??
*Check exhaust butterfly valve, make sure its not stuck in the closed position.

Does the bike move freely when in neutral?
How does it rev in neutral?
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sbk1198 has a valid point..

BUT I understand were your coming from..

Just did my own valves, had to change shims.
In hindsight, pull the engine. (sorry another topic)


SO,, first. A camera is going to be your friend and life saver.
Before disconnecting anything. It gets a picture. ANYTHING that looks the same like the black hoses gets a label and a picture.
Screws get's sandwich bags. Labeled and if possible put back in place on bike.


Drain ALL the fuel. Get fresh, before putting in SeaFoam no more than 50% above the directions. A full can in your bike isn't going to clean 4 times faster.
Fill tank. See what happens.

Might also get a cheap infrared thermometer, you might need it later.
If not, your french fries will thank you.
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What was the condition of the bike before you stored it? Is 856 miles the original miles? In the video on youtube.com, the description say you removed the exhaust and then it finally came on, is that correct? Are there any modification on the bike and if yes, list all of them and the year make model of the bike.
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What was the condition of the bike before you stored it? Is 856 miles the original miles? In the video on youtube.com, the description say you removed the exhaust and then it finally came on, is that correct? Are there any modification on the bike and if yes, list all of them and the year make model of the bike.
Oh no that was just the time. Also I thought something was stuck in my exhaust system but I don't think that was the case. I left my bike out for 2 months in the freezing weather. The year before I had it stored with a full tank in the garage and all I needed was a new battery. My bike is a 2005 Zx6r 636. No serious modifications but the power commander.
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