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Interested in how that works out.. Some pictures and a HOW TO would be sweet.

Saturday found the battery on my bike is about shot..
Made it to tech, started back up. Drove back to our spot.
5 minute notice, click, click click.

Worked fine after push start, and ONE start per charge. Found out tank needs to come off to pull battery. ARGHHH.

Hopefully the short drain won't hurt your battery to bad.

OH,, I might want to move up a spring on my bike. It has Ohlin cartridges in it.
Maybe you have a buyer, since I'm a big fat arsed person.
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Interested in how that works out.. Some pictures and a HOW TO would be sweet.

Saturday found the battery on my bike is about shot..
Made it to tech, started back up. Drove back to our spot.
5 minute notice, click, click click.

Worked fine after push start, and ONE start per charge. Found out tank needs to come off to pull battery. ARGHHH.

Hopefully the short drain won't hurt your battery to bad.

OH,, I might want to move up a spring on my bike. It has Ohlin cartridges in it.
Maybe you have a buyer, since I'm a big fat arsed person.
I thing my battery is completely empty. Put it on a tender to see if it would charge up any. After about 45 minutes, it still had nothing. Dash wouldn't even turn on. I'll leave it overnight, but I don't have high hopes.

What spring rates are your fork springs? I have a set of 10 N/mm and a set of 10.5 N/mm (currently on the bike).

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Jack up the bike, run a ratchet strap around the wheel and to the triple? I'm not a mechanic or anything but I don't see why that wouldn't work
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I thing my battery is completely empty. Put it on a tender to see if it would charge up any. After about 45 minutes, it still had nothing. Dash wouldn't even turn on. I'll leave it overnight, but I don't have high hopes.

What spring rates are your fork springs? I have a set of 10 N/mm and a set of 10.5 N/mm (currently on the bike).
Lead acid really do not like being flat lined.
Lithium Iron you can get away with it..

Have no idea on the springs. The previous owner wasn't as big as I am.
Height or weight. I'm 245 lb's. 6'4"
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Jack up the bike, run a ratchet strap around the wheel and to the triple? I'm not a mechanic or anything but I don't see why that wouldn't work
That's actually a pretty good idea.

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Lead acid really do not like being flat lined.
Lithium Iron you can get away with it..

Have no idea on the springs. The previous owner wasn't as big as I am.
Height or weight. I'm 245 lb's. 6'4"
Are your forks or shock too soft for you then? Size of previous owner doesn't usually tell the story. The previous owner of my zx6r told me the bike was sprung for his weight (~210 lbs). I weighed more than that and found the shock to bee way too stiff, and the forks were a bit too soft (so those were probably correct for his weight).

My old CBR500 was owned by a guy that weight a whole 70-75 lbs less than me and the bike felt fine for my weight. Forks were a bit on the soft side but I never bottomed out even under the hardest braking.
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Well that was easier than I expected. Now I know that the lazy way is the way to go if all I want to do is swap springs

All I had to take off was the front fender. Using my pitbull stand lifting from the steering stem, when I lower it down to the point that the bar from the stand rests on top of the tire, the amount that the caps lift up is plenty to be able to put a wrench in there and take them off. Took me a bit of time to figure out exactly how I wanted to do it, and to make sure I'm not gonna screw anything up, but once I got the method down, it goes by pretty quick. I'm guessing if I had to do it again it would take me about 10 minutes or so from start to finish. Much quicker than taking pretty much the whole front end apart to take the forks out.
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Well that was easier than I expected. Now I know that the lazy way is the way to go if all I want to do is swap springs

All I had to take off was the front fender. Using my pitbull stand lifting from the steering stem, when I lower it down to the point that the bar from the stand rests on top of the tire, the amount that the caps lift up is plenty to be able to put a wrench in there and take them off. Took me a bit of time to figure out exactly how I wanted to do it, and to make sure I'm not gonna screw anything up, but once I got the method down, it goes by pretty quick. I'm guessing if I had to do it again it would take me about 10 minutes or so from start to finish. Much quicker than taking pretty much the whole front end apart to take the forks out.
Fantastic,, now for extra money from youtube.
Do a video, since it's 10 minutes. Piece of cake.

So with forks fully extended the caps go off and on easily?


Glad you got it done.
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No time to read through everything.

1) put bike up on front stand
2) remove fork caps
3) have 2 friends lift front of bike
4) remove front stand
5) friends gently lower front of bike until it bottoms

Fork springs easily accessible now.

This is how we change springs 5 minutes before gridding up :-p
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Fantastic,, now for extra money from youtube.
Do a video, since it's 10 minutes. Piece of cake.

So with forks fully extended the caps go off and on easily?

Glad you got it done.
Yes they do. You just need to loosen up the bolts on the triple clamp. Not worthy of a video, the 2 pictures should give a decent idea. Basically, in more detail, the steps are as follows:

1. Remove front fender
2. Remove all preload from the forks.
3. Use a stand that lifts from steering stem and lift the front up
4. Loosen triple clamp bolts
5. Twist off the fork caps. It'll appear like it's not doing anything, but when you hear a click, that's when the threads are completely disengaged.
6. Drop front end down. The cross bar from the stand will rest on the tire.
7. Compress the spring with one hand and with the other insert a 19mm wrench to hold the nut from the bottom of the fork caps.
8. Use a 14 mm wrench or socket on the top (preload adjuster) to remove the fork caps.
9. Once you release that 19mm wrench, the damper rod will sink down.
10. Swap the springs, and put everything back together in reverse order of these steps.

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No time to read through everything.

1) put bike up on front stand
2) remove fork caps
3) have 2 friends lift front of bike
4) remove front stand
5) friends gently lower front of bike until it bottoms

Fork springs easily accessible now.

This is how we change springs 5 minutes before gridding up :-p
Nah, that's too much work, and it involves 2 extra people. See my last post. I just got it done and it was pretty easy. Using a Pitbull stand to lift from the steering head means you don't need extra people or to break your back lifting heavy stuff

I've been told that the mother of all innovation is laziness

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LOL... Yep,, or it's called work smarter, not harder.

Makes sense, a video would still be sweet.

It's not like I have missed a important bit of information before. LOL..

So did you step up a spring size. Pull the fork's, and pump the fluid out.
What weight oil did you install.

Most importantly, improved how it feels or yet to test?
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LOL... Yep,, or it's called work smarter, not harder.

Makes sense, a video would still be sweet.

It's not like I have missed a important bit of information before. LOL..

So did you step up a spring size. Pull the fork's, and pump the fluid out.
What weight oil did you install.

Most importantly, improved how it feels or yet to test?
Over the winter I serviced my forks (new fluid and seals) and I went up 1 size on the springs because last year I felt that they were a bit too soft. I finally got a chance to ride the bike a couple of weeks ago and now I feel they're a bit too stiff. Even under hard braking, I still had about 1" of fork travel left. So now I wanted to just replace one of the springs with one of the ones I had in before.

So I had 10.0 N/mm springs before. Then I went to 10.5. Now I have a 10.5 in one and 10.0 in the other. Next weekend I get a chance to ride it at my home track. That should give me a decent idea for how it feels, however my home track doesn't have the hardest braking zones that I've experienced at other tracks. I've never bottomed out at my home track, but I have at other tracks.

I used the recommended Ohlins oil that they have in the manual. It's 5 wt I believe.
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