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post #1 of 15 Old 04-22-2017, 08:16 PM Thread Starter
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Looking for plug and play dual hid/led kits.

As any owner of a motorcycle knows the stock headlights suck.
So I want to know what plug and play kits are available so I can ride comfortably ride at night.
I'd prefer a dual headlight setup if possible.
I've been looking around but seeing as I'm unsure about what I'm doing I don't want to spend money on the wrong unit.
Any and all info would be appreciated.
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LED units are generally too long to mount in the sockets without hitting the forks when you turn to the max.

HID are a good way to stress the electrical system. Try a single 35W HID, just on the low beam side and decide if more than 3 times the light, is enough. 55W setups draw too much juice as they start up. Doubling the bulbs makes the issue 4 times worse.

The human eye sees daylight best. Not so much, with blue and purple. If you want light you can use, stick with <6000 Kelvin. 4300 is really close to sunlight.
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The most plug and play you can get, is to buy a complete lamp assembly already converted. BKMoto offers this service, but it's not cheap. You still have to wire the unit, and I don't think anyone has adapter cables to completely eliminate splicing. My BKMoto dual 35 watt setup required three splices, for a basic setup, no halos or demon eyes.
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post #4 of 15 Old 04-27-2017, 08:55 AM
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Not sure what year your bike is (mines a 2015) and I used these LED headlights. They were plug and play, took about 5 minutes to install. Biggest issue was hiding the driver for the LED.

That said, i don't feel like this is a real upgrade from stock... The headlights (not the bulbs) just don't seem too great. Color is awesome with LEDs, but I can't see any better than I did with stock. So if you want a better color, these are the way to go, but it doesn't really help or hurt actual visibility.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01L91AS9Q

Here's a comparison to the stock/LED lights:


And here's how it looks with low and high beams on:


Here's a comparison of low beams on stock (first) and LEDs (second) with my helmet cam that does bad in low light. So it's not as bad as it appears here, but it's definitely not good.


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HIDs are the way to go!
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Has anyone actually purchased the plug and play kit from BKMoto?
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Has anyone actually purchased the plug and play kit from BKMoto?
A YouTuber I watch did. There was no difference on the wiring side from mine. Only difference was that the projectors, halos, and demon eyes were already installed in the stock housing.
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i have LEDs, with fan, on my 2002 bike

if hitting forks is a problem, go for the fanless types which are available now

plug n play and excellent output - esp good for being seen in daytime

i do not do much riding at night
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Yeah i was about to buy the whole housing from BKmoto but now I'm worried that it will hit the forks. I don't wanna deal with those kind've issues...
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i have LEDs, with fan, on my 2002 bike

if hitting forks is a problem, go for the fanless types which are available now

plug n play and excellent output - esp good for being seen in daytime

i do not do much riding at night
I dont understand why these LED headlights require a fan to keep them cool. Guys at my workplace have LED flashlights that put out way more light and dont even get hot.


I think its a gimmick so the manufacturers can make more money. Damn bastards!
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FYI LED headlights aren't quite there yet. They put out plenty of light but the beam is kind of scattered, at least on any that I have seen.

Right now I would go with HIDs.

I have dual 55w in my 1999 triumph and if anything was going to have a shitty electrical system...that bike is it. No problems at all after a year.
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I dont understand why these LED headlights require a fan to keep them cool. Guys at my workplace have LED flashlights that put out way more light and dont even get hot.


I think its a gimmick so the manufacturers can make more money. Damn bastards!
the problem is with trying to re-use the optics. A flashlight can have an array of LED elements to generate the amount of light you want. You can light up a billboard of elements and use the sum of all the outputs. General purpose 'flood' lighting.

Headlights tend to rely on more focusing. That requires something that is meant to produce a very small point of light, which has to be produced in a very small area. If the light is generated over a wider area, it won't refract and reflect the same way as the point source will through the optical path.

You want more light than an incandescent (white hot) wire makes, in a space less than 4 mm long by much less than 1 wide? There is going to be heat involved. solid state devices have issues with thermal runaway -- as they get hotter, they lose resistance, which draws more current and makes them even hotter. If the heat is not removed, it will burn itself up.

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Not sure what year your bike is (mines a 2015) and I used these LED headlights. They were plug and play, took about 5 minutes to install. Biggest issue was hiding the driver for the LED.

That said, i don't feel like this is a real upgrade from stock... The headlights (not the bulbs) just don't seem too great. Color is awesome with LEDs, but I can't see any better than I did with stock. So if you want a better color, these are the way to go, but it doesn't really help or hurt actual visibility.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01L91AS9Q

Here's a comparison to the stock/LED lights:


And here's how it looks with low and high beams on:


Here's a comparison of low beams on stock (first) and LEDs (second) with my helmet cam that does bad in low light. So it's not as bad as it appears here, but it's definitely not good.

Nice setup. Which 194's for the parking lights did you go with?

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Nice setup. Which 194's for the parking lights did you go with?
Thanks man. Just picked up some of these from Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016GKJ6PM..._xCrhzbEXA7Z8E

And just an update on those, I rotated the lights a bit and it made a huge difference, much brighter now and can see way better than stock. Fans also do not hit the forks.

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Here's what my dual 35 watt bixenon setup looks like, low beams.

Note that at the moment, the headlights aren't aimed correctly. They as low as I can get them for now, until I can get 'round to properly adjusting them, so I reckon they'll probably throw light a little further down the road, once I get it all sorted. I also have a pair of bright-as-all-get-out halos, that you can see illuminating the road directly in front of the bike.
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