CorneringThis is a discussion on Cornering within the Motorcycle Talk forums, part of the ZX6R Forum category; anybody have any tips on taking corners better? thanks...  |
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01-13-2012, 05:13 PM
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#1 | | Track Star
Joined: Dec 2011 From: nashville,tn Posts: 320 I Ride: 05 zx6r | Cornering
anybody have any tips on taking corners better? thanks
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01-13-2012, 05:16 PM
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#2 | | MotoGP Champion
Joined: Aug 2011 From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England. Posts: 2,682 I Ride: 2001 Blue J2 ZX6R |
Lean rather than steering...... Lol
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01-13-2012, 05:19 PM
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#3 | | World Superbike Champion
Joined: Sep 2010 From: Milton Keynes, UK Posts: 2,231 I Ride: 1997 zx6r/Getting a 2012 baby |
Wanna tell us what you're doing now? Or a video would be even better!
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01-13-2012, 05:19 PM
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#4 | | Track Star
Joined: Nov 2010 From: Melbourne Posts: 371 I Ride: 2008 ZX6r Vivid Yellow |
Enter a corner as wide as you can, applying any brakes before you start the corner, then come right in across the apex, as you begin to exit the corner open your throttle and exit the corner again with as much width as your lane will allow.
Make sure your weight is on the side of the bike you are cornering... A common mistake is as the bike leans over you throw your weight on the opposite site to feel safer. This will prevent the bike bending through the corner and you'll find you start to go wide...
There's plenty of other tips I'm sure the guys will provide!
The most important thing I suppose is take every corner at a speed that FEELS SAFE!!! Don't try and be a cowboy... Fast corners are best left on the track.
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01-13-2012, 05:28 PM
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#5 | | Superbike Champion
Joined: Jul 2011 From: MD Posts: 1,058 I Ride: a Schwinn | |
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01-13-2012, 05:32 PM
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#6 | | Track Star
Joined: Dec 2011 From: nashville,tn Posts: 320 I Ride: 05 zx6r |
i just dont know where the best spot to be in, in the lane when in the corner. i either come out wide or to close to the line and thanks for the replies
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01-13-2012, 05:36 PM
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#7 | | Pro Racer
Joined: Sep 2011 From: Southern Cali Posts: 651 I Ride: 05 SexDirtySex |
i say a BIG one is "look were you want to go".
U see gravel on the road, well dont keep looking at it cuz you'll end up going right over it, the view looks nice?? well dont look at it cuz you might end up going off the road, theres an uncoming car  guess wat....dont look at it.
Just be aware that all that shits there.
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01-13-2012, 05:53 PM
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#8 | | World Superbike Racer
Joined: Sep 2011 From: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 1,746 I Ride: 2009 Green ZX6R | Quote:
Originally Posted by oKayH | ^^^^
this!
Best cornering thread EVER.
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01-13-2012, 06:11 PM
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#9 | | Track Star
Joined: Mar 2011 From: San Diego Posts: 261 |
Start off with reading twist of the wrist 2 and sport riding techniques. Both very good
Reads. You should be able to get some ideas from there
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01-13-2012, 06:41 PM
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#10 | | Track Star
Joined: Dec 2011 From: nashville,tn Posts: 320 I Ride: 05 zx6r |
ok thanks everyone
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01-13-2012, 06:54 PM
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#11 | | Track Star
Joined: Nov 2011 From: Bethlehem, PA Posts: 391 |
Well step 1 really is to take a school or join a track organization and take the class they offer. heres my short list on how to take a corner ( street orientated)
-1) this is the street uncontrollable shit can and will happen ride sensibly
1) get your braking done before the corner try not to brake in the corner.
2) commit to the corner look through the corner your braking is done now your turning in. Get off the brakes find neutral throttle, not accelerating not de-accelerating. Wait till you apex then star rolling on the throttle smoothly. repeat enjoy.
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01-13-2012, 07:50 PM
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#12 | | Track Star
Joined: Dec 2011 From: nashville,tn Posts: 320 I Ride: 05 zx6r |
ok thanks johnnyE
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01-13-2012, 08:43 PM
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#13 | | Track Star
Joined: Aug 2011 From: Destin/Ft Walton Beach Florida Posts: 514 I Ride: 2011 Black ZX6R |
tuck and make your body part of your bike, slide as close to your tank and lean your bike....
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01-13-2012, 09:51 PM
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#14 | | Squid
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 53 |
Just like cali636er said, it's your eyes. You are concentrating to much on cornering and your eyes are focused on the corner u r in. You have to look through the corner and your body will natural steer you through it as long as u are at a safe speed.
I had same issue. I used my brother driving his car ahead of me about 50 yards and i would concentrate on keeping my eyes on the car instead of the corner i was in. Once you get the concept and relax you will actually feel your body naturally taking you through corner. The bike will also feel more nimble to u. This will train you to look through the corner. I have also used this with friend that was a new rider. I had him follow me while riding and it really helped him.
Once u get comfortable looking through then u can practice higher speeds.
Hope this helps.
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01-13-2012, 10:16 PM
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#15 | | Post Master General
Joined: Sep 2010 From: VA Posts: 8,742 I Ride: 2009 GREEN ZX6R |
this should be in all cornering threads. Quote:
Originally Posted by 09ZX-6R so heres how it works...
improper foot and rider position before corner entry and prior to prepping.
proper rider and foot position prior to corner prep. (notice the feet moved back to the toes, and your ass slides to mid seat. this straitens the back and shoulders.
now to prep for your corner entry. this is where the toe meets the peg nipple and the heel rotates up onto the heel guard. this in turn allows your knee to rotate out correctly with no effort or strain.
then slide your entire body to the side of the bike (in this case, to the right) so your asscrack meets the edge of the seat and your chest is inline with the mirror.
impropper position aka being crossed up
propper position
from there you will then lean your body forward and bend your inside elbow and straiten your outside arm.
the outside arm and leg should look like this. the elbow straitened but not locked, your knee griping the tank and foot slightly forward on the peg.
then relax your body and lean the bike into the turn while looking over your elbow and remaining tucked to the inside of the bike.
at this point alot of riders and some new racers are sketchy about hanging off the throttle side because there right hand and arm are unpredictable with maintaining body posture and control. the usuall mistake is this when the body is positioned but the hands are not. notice the bent wrist. causes strain and hard throttle control.
the best hand position is this... it maintains control and is totally strain free. quite comfy too.  | |
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