it seems him and Keith Code differ a lot in certain areas. Keith says get all your braking done, then flick it into the corner. Nick says use your brakes to help with steering geometry and getting the bike turned, dont flick.
guess it just goes to show you there is more than one way of doing things!
I think Keith's books are just based on old school thinking and riding. Nothing wrong with it as a beginner though. Even ienatsch Said in this new "Pace" that he has revised his thinking over the years based on experience.
Originally Posted by MistressOfMayhem View Post
I'm going to tweak the title of this thread a little bit if you don't mind. I've already stickied it but I'd like to give a little more clarity to what exactly it is. Most people around here don't read books so they won't be familiar with the title.
Edit: Okay "discuss time."
What it boils down to is individual style. I think that personally, my own style varies. There were some things that I just couldn't pick up when I took Code's Superbike School, one of them was the quick-turn, or the flicking of the bars to engage turn-in. I've never been the type of rider that does any sort of abrupt motions; of course, it's possible that I've just never been fast enough for it to matter. It sounds like Ienatsch describes a little more of my own approach and I've found it to work for me. I do need to carry more speed though... I have a big problem with the confidence of my bikes right now though, mechanically. And I'm rusty as a rider too so I'm currently going back to square 1 with some of my own drills.
As for the lack of interest in the article: you have to understand that many folks who ride don't see it as a craft that they learn and unfortunately, the demographic of this forum is such that... well... you get a bunch of novices and dude-bro's wanting to fling poo at each other in pissing matches rather than actually opening themselves up to discussion. To them it's more like a hobby or a fashion statement... to us, well it's something much more involved (and rewarding).
I think the biggest problem with learning trail braking, quick flicking, and of these other things is that the mental image it paints just messes people up. When I first started to try and trail brake, I just made myself get flustered and blow turns....on the street. When I wasn't trying and just running a good clip, I just found myself trail braking out of necessity. As of late, I have just been trying to play with it for the geometry changing aspect.
I really think that once your right hand is down, you can pick up everything else rather easy once you are confident that nothing will break down on you and your other mental blocks are gone. "Slow hands go fast" isn't just a cute saying, its the freakin truth. Just go out, and force yourself to apply the throttle like butter. Squeeze the brake smoothly. Make it such that you don't feel the bike pitch forward or aft. Once you do that, things pick up fast from there.
*To simplify things a great deal* The only difference between a decent track day rider and the top of MotoGP is the speed at which we all do things at. The top guys are just REALLY good at doing all of these things really fast, and really smooth.
Get your bikes together, treat yourself to some fresh rubber, and go just work on using the throttle to control your bike. Tires are butter, throttle is your butter knife,, so go smear some butter on the road.....
As for the demographics, yea. Too many "builders" and not enough riders. But they are keeping the aftermarket companies afloat I guess....