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post #1 of 39 Old 02-11-2015, 12:36 PM Thread Starter
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Bike/Parts Donations to School Club?

So I'm wondering what some thoughts from folks around here are. I'm the only teacher at my school who rides a motorcycle and get a decent amount of attention from students because of it. Since our school is very focused on aviation and engineering, we have a lot of students who are into mechanical/hands-on type stuff.

I'm thinking it would be super cool to get a motorcycle maintenance/build/repair/customization club started because of all that interest. The problem I keep coming up to is how would I get a bike and supplies and things like that.

So here's my though: If I could get documentation to be able to offer people a tax write-off for donating parts for the use by the club, do you think I could get enough donations to build a street or track ready bike? I'd certainly be going after sponsorship and things like that as well (I do a lot of that already for our robotics teams, so I know how all that works).

What are all of your thoughts? I haven't thought through this too much yet, so really what I'm looking for is feedback and questions to help me refine my thoughts and come up with things I haven't thought of yet.

Thanks in advance folks!

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Great idea, and if you can get the school behind it I am sure that you could easily find donors for parts.
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Happy to hear a supportive voice - wasn't sure whether I was being realistic or not

Any thoughts on the best way to solicit donations from individuals? I know how to contact companies and try to get donations from them, but I've never tried to get donations from individuals before...thoughts?

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Start a benefit and get the local paper and or news stations to cover it. Tell them you want to inspire young people to love the life style and spark a passion in which they might want to pursue with further education. All the while teaching them the responsibilities of riding and caring for these awesome machines.
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Cool idea. Don't know how practical it would be for this kind of club, but I always hear about people who get free or extremely reduced cost paint jobs and stuff for their vehicles through programs like this, or reduced cost studio time through a music school, etc. Maybe you can leverage something like that? You could get a donor vehicle with a real project.


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U can also check out craigslist often for very cheap motorcycles. Ive even seen people giving them away for free around here. Could be used as a nice project.

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Thanks for the suggestions so far folks!

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Start a benefit and get the local paper and or news stations to cover it. Tell them you want to inspire young people to love the life style and spark a passion in which they might want to pursue with further education. All the while teaching them the responsibilities of riding and caring for these awesome machines.
This is the direction I'm hoping to go. I'm not 100% sure how to make it all work at the moment, but this is the basic idea.

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Cool idea. Don't know how practical it would be for this kind of club, but I always hear about people who get free or extremely reduced cost paint jobs and stuff for their vehicles through programs like this, or reduced cost studio time through a music school, etc. Maybe you can leverage something like that? You could get a donor vehicle with a real project.
Yeah, I'm not sure how applicable some of that is either, but I'm hoping that I'll be able to form some partnerships for various aspects of project. We have a lot of engineering and manufacturing places nearby that I'm hoping maybe we can get some cheap basic supplies from and maybe use of some machinery including ability to make custom parts and stuff like that. I'm pretty excited about talking to various businesses (maybe powdercoating places and whatnot?) to see what partnerships we can form.

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U can also check out craigslist often for very cheap motorcycles. Ive even seen people giving them away for free around here. Could be used as a nice project.

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Yeah, this is the kind of thing I'll be on the lookout for once I get everything rolling. I'm really hoping that if I can get proper documentation so that maybe I'll even be able to convince someone like this to donate the bike for a tax write-off instead of making the school pay for it.

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Little update on what I've got going on:

1) I pitched the idea to my boss and a few key coworkers who I thought might have good feedback and received enough support that I'm going to move forward with it (along with some skepticism)

2) I found a local guy who owns a body shop/restoration business (he's done some really excellent work on a few of my grandfather's exotic projects fwiw: Blaine's Auto Werkes). He frequently buys from some insurance auctions in the area and is willing to broker a sale for me without charging me anything. As of right now, I'm going to buy it out of my pocket...and I'm mostly alright with that

3) I found a few bikes that might work - right now I'm leaning towards a 2013 CBR250R with a scrap title. I have yet to go check it out in person yet (hopefully Thursday's task), but it looks like it should work well as a project build for me and some students.

4) I've got a short list going of businesses that are reasonably local that I can go to in order to solicit donations of parts and tools once we have a bike procured. I'm going to start relatively soon with trying to get some things that I don't personally have so that we can have them for the school - things like valve feeler gauges, engine compression tester, ... maybe other things I'm forgetting at the moment?)

5) I've got a form put together and authorized by my bosses that, with minimal effort, will allow me to offer proof of donation to a non-profit organization so that people who donate items to the club will be able to claim tax deductions.

6) I've decided that in order to try to maintain good relationships with the businesses that donate to us in a couple of ways; First, by displaying them as sponsors on the finished product. And second, by starting a club website/blog to catalogue our progress where we can display sponsor logos, links, and contributions to our projects (as well as obviously show of tons of pictures, videos, and written descriptions of what we've accomplished).

Anyway, long post, but that's where things are right now and I'm VERY excited to keep moving forward with this! Please feel free to let me know if you have comments, questions, or whatever.
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I dig it! One place you might want to look for support, if you have not already is:
https://www.grmakers.com
They are a local Makerspace Near you. Your in Grand Rapids right?

We (Makerspace in Cincy OH) sponsor a high school robotics team. Basically give them free space, access to the shop and training to use the equipment.
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Here is another Makerspace in your area. I think they are a little more established.
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Unfortunately I dont think I am going to be able to itemize on my taxes this year so the tax write off probably wont help me unless this year goes quite a bit different than previous... but I would still be willing to donate to a good cause

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I dig it! One place you might want to look for support, if you have not already is:
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They are a local Makerspace Near you. Your in Grand Rapids right?

We (Makerspace in Cincy OH) sponsor a high school robotics team. Basically give them free space, access to the shop and training to use the equipment.
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I hadn't actually thought of using the makerspaces to our advantage, but will absolutely look into that now that you've brought it to my attention. I am familiar with The Geek Group, but had actually not heard of GR Makers before, so I'll have to do some looking into those a bit. Thanks for your thoughts - I'll keep everyone here updated with how this all works out

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How is the progress going on this, maybe this is something we could step in on?

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How is the progress going on this, maybe this is something we could step in on?

I finally got approval from my administration yesterday after having to fight a bit about where we would do it and whether there is any liability to be concerned with and whatnot. So hopefully I'll be getting started soon.

I'd love for you to step in in any way you see fit. Maybe we could have a quick phone chat sometime soon?

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UPDATE:

1) I officially have administrative approval for my club, but I will be receiving absolutely no funding and will have very limited space to work in (basically, I'll be in an 8x15 section of my classroom - no worries, I've worked with much worse).

2) I've secured (well, almost) a project for us. I found a guy who wants to get rid of a '99 R6 with a blown engine plus two spare engines, one that is supposedly working and correct for the bike, the other that is working and not correct for the bike. The guy has a great story of how he got it and how everything came about, but has done virtually no work to get it all back together the way it should be. The bike is a complete mess and will probably be a VERY long project (which, for the purpose of this club, isn't a bad thing)

3) I started making a list of local businesses and suppliers that I'll be calling to ask for donations of materials (tools mostly to begin with). I'm not planning to ask for any money at the moment because I don't want to compete at all for funds with some of our other teams that exist here at the school. I'll also be offering to them that if they get us decals, their name/logo can end up on the bike when it's done and it will also be displayed on the website/blog/whatever I set up to chronicle the work done by the club.

4) Today, I started making a list of stuff that I need and/or I assume I'll need as I move forward through the project (we've literally got almost nothing right now). I'm sure there are many, many other things I'll need that I'm not thinking of at the moment, which is part of why I'm putting the list here - so you guys can add to it for me
  • 3/8 drive spark plug sockets
  • 3/8 drive socket set – metric and US
  • Front and rear motorcycle stands
  • Box end wrenches – metric and US
  • Screw driver sets – flat and phillips
  • Allen wrench sets – metric and US
  • Pliers and vice grips
  • Torque wrench
  • Wire strippers
  • Engine compression tester
  • Valve feeler gauges

I think that's it for now, but I'll try to keep updating this with more info as things begin to progress. I'll probably start a new thread with pictures and whatnot as soon as we actually get going on it.

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