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post #1 of 13 Old 01-24-2017, 10:16 PM Thread Starter
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Suh doods!! Looking to get my first bike and came across an 03 636. My question is it has 23k miles on it and they're asking 3k for it. So how many miles is too much miles?

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post #2 of 13 Old 01-25-2017, 01:28 AM
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age old question...

if it runs right and pulls strong, no mileage is to high. A well cared for bike is essentially ageless.

3k is a bit hogh IMO, though idk where you live. I got an 05 636 with 12k (or so, i cant remember yhe exact #) for 3500 here in MD.

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Thanks for the input I'm out here in lovely arizona where it's always riding season lol so prices are always up

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post #4 of 13 Old 01-25-2017, 03:05 AM
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Seems like extremely low mileage for an area you can ride all year....... I'm in VA, and have more than 40K on an '09. If I had an '03 and rode it as much as I do this bike, it would have added around 7K/year. at 10 years old I would not be surprised by 70K miles in the SW....at 14 years near 100K would not be unexpected.

Less than 3K/year means it sits a bunch.... even that would put you up to 40K or so.

This bike has to either have sat for years without moving, or has had the odometer replaced. Either way, that's a bike I would have a professional go through and evaluate. Seals dry out, the insides of gas tanks rust, rubber lines get brittle. Brake fluid goes off over time.... it collects water, which will cause the brakes to fail after a few years. Engine coolant goes off as well. The chain will get seriously nasty. Electrical switches will get stuck. The battery is quite likely to be bad..... tires will almost certainly be dangerously old. Suspension components don't like sitting still, either.
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This bike has to either have sat for years without moving, or has had the odometer replaced. Either way, that's a bike I would have a professional go through and evaluate. Seals dry out, the insides of gas tanks rust, rubber lines get brittle. Brake fluid goes off over time.... it collects water, which will cause the brakes to fail after a few years. Engine coolant goes off as well. The chain will get seriously nasty. Electrical switches will get stuck. The battery is quite likely to be bad..... tires will almost certainly be dangerously old. Suspension components don't like sitting still, either.
You're not necessarily wrong, but it's possible that it was well maintained and just not ridden that much. 23K miles suggests that SOMEONE liked this bike quite a bit at some point. Only looking at it will tell you for sure. I'd go look at it and just inspect it carefully. Check the manufacture date on the tires. Budget accordingly if that date is more than five years ago. The battery could concievably be totally fine, or it may not be. Same thing for all the rubber hoses and stuff. Inspect them and react accordingly.

I always assume fluids need changing on a used vehicle, unless I know for sure that the seller changed them recently.

All of this out of the way, I'd look for something a little friendlier and more comfortable to sit on as a first bike, like an SV650 or Ninja 650, but that's just me being an old fart.
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^ the 'first bike' portion of the OPs statement suggested to me that they would be in the dark as to obvious signs of neglect or abuse. Looking at the one photo of the bike, it's been down on the side facing the camera. If that's the better side of the bike, what does the off side look like?

If it got dropped hard enough to scare a previous owner into waiting until they got their nerve back up it could easily sit for a decade or more...... that's where the problems manifest.

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Please take a motorcycle safety course/rider training before riding your 1st bike!
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From that pic it looks like u have a dented tank, scratched muffler, scratched fairings, and a fucked up nose cowl. 25K miles....I wouldnt pay more than $2200 for that bike.
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I did take the riders safety course

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I JUST bought an 03 myself. I got a pretty good deal, but it needed quite a few things. However, I have been around motorcycles a while and can perform all of the work needed. Unless it's been extremely well maintained, a bike of this age is almost guaranteed to have some work required. I had no reservations picking up the 03 I did because I knew 1) I could do all of the work and 2) I had budgeted for the bike+parts and it was an extremely good deal.

All that to say for a very first bike, I would highly recommend you do some research and try to get an idea of the maintenance history of each bike you're looking at. Ask how old the tires are, chain and sprockets, brake pads, mileage since last valve adjustment, etc. A reliable bike is more fun when you're learning to ride.

But if you're mechanically adept and want to learn how to work on bikes and don't mind it being down for a week or more at a time, that's awesome, too.
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post #13 of 13 Old 01-25-2017, 02:26 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for all the input guys I'm really stuck between this 03 and a 05 636 I love the way the 05 looks but It's a tiny bit more exspensive

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