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post #1 of 36 Old 01-29-2017, 04:44 PM Thread Starter
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Having some serious thoughts on selling my 2015 ZX-6R 30th anniversary edition for the new Kawasaki Z900. I've been really wanting a naked bike lately and something with a more upright riding position. My taste and riding style has changed a lot and i started to realize that at the end of last season. I have zero plans to go to the track with my 636 and i'm just not riding it the way it was designed to be ridden. My lower back also has issues and this bike certainly wasn't designed with comfort in mind. Any thoughts on my choice to possibly sell the 636 for the Z900? I am only 21 years old so owning multiple bikes just isn't justifiable at the moment. I'm just really wanting something more comfortable but still with lots of power and acceleration. The Z800 was a good bike but that Z900 looks like a pretty good bike for the price (8,399 for NON ABS model) Any thoughts on this? Has anyone else gotten sorta sick or just lost interest in the crouched over aggressive riding position the super sports and liter bikes have lately? Maybe i've just lost interest in the 636 but i just want something more cruising/ commuting friendly. Just unsure of what to do. I love my 636 but i'm sick of the cramps and no comfort on these longer rides. I'm 21 years old 5 foot 11 inches and 155 pounds. I work in construction and i'm certainly not out of shape haha. It's just not a bike that was built with comfort in mind. Figured id see if anyone was having the same thoughts as me this season. Ride safe mates.

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You could always get some adjustable rearsets and clip-on risers. :

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The ZX 6 is a purpose built race bike, tweaked enough to ride on the street. Not an ideal day to day rider.

There's a good reason there were Standard bikes (also known as Universal Japanese Motorcycles ---UJM for short)

Pegs where you can stand up easily, wider bars at a natural angle.... roomy seat you can change positions on.... long term comfort, on a roomy bike is a good thing. Center stands. Truly useful things.

Not to mention less money on insurance.....
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LOL,, I feel your pain..

At my age the 20 minute track sessions are about it.
Take a test ride, and make sure it's one that will be in the same conditions you plan on using it.

Let them know, I will be needing the bike for a day of riding, if I can deal with it you have one sold. Pick the test bike you wouldn't mind owning.
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LOL,, I feel your pain..

At my age the 20 minute track sessions are about it.
Take a test ride, and make sure it's one that will be in the same conditions you plan on using it.

Let them know, I will be needing the bike for a day of riding, if I can deal with it you have one sold. Pick the test bike you wouldn't mind owning.
Seems like dealers that allow test rides are few and far between. Maybe a miracle if he finds one willing to let him have it for a day.

I am interested in the z8/900's. Seems like a fun bike but they seem like they are on the heavy side. In the Z800 vs. gsxs750 comparison the 800 was almost 100lbs heavier than the zuk. Not sure how that is even possible

EDIT: Looks like the trellis frame helps the Z900 go on a much needed diet, it is 50lbs lighter than the Z800.

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Having some serious thoughts on selling my 2015 ZX-6R 30th anniversary edition for the new Kawasaki Z900. I've been really wanting a naked bike lately and something with a more upright riding position. My taste and riding style has changed a lot and i started to realize that at the end of last season. I have zero plans to go to the track with my 636 and i'm just not riding it the way it was designed to be ridden. My lower back also has issues and this bike certainly wasn't designed with comfort in mind. Any thoughts on my choice to possibly sell the 636 for the Z900? I am only 21 years old so owning multiple bikes just isn't justifiable at the moment. I'm just really wanting something more comfortable but still with lots of power and acceleration. The Z800 was a good bike but that Z900 looks like a pretty good bike for the price (8,399 for NON ABS model) Any thoughts on this? Has anyone else gotten sorta sick or just lost interest in the crouched over aggressive riding position the super sports and liter bikes have lately? Maybe i've just lost interest in the 636 but i just want something more cruising/ commuting friendly. Just unsure of what to do. I love my 636 but i'm sick of the cramps and no comfort on these longer rides. I'm 21 years old 5 foot 11 inches and 155 pounds. I work in construction and i'm certainly not out of shape haha. It's just not a bike that was built with comfort in mind. Figured id see if anyone was having the same thoughts as me this season. Ride safe mates.

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If you are solely going street riding then the ZX6R just doesn't make sense for you. I would say that the Z900 would be a much wiser choice for you.

There is a reason why my street bike has bags and is upright :-p

You wouldn't ride a sportbike on a dirt track. Why ride a race bike off the race track?
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What I require of a street bike, I get more of with the ZX6 than I do with most of the more moderate renditions. Low weight, high power, quality suspension, and a dealer network that is large enough to keep costs within reason. Reasonable maintenance intervals.

I would prefer more space between the foot pegs and the seat. The layout is compromised from what it is meant to be for the track and is okay but not great for the day to day.

I can understand why pegs set further 'back' would be better, as that would make it easier to roll my torso forward towards the tank. If they stay where they are, they limit how much of a tuck I can force myself into. My hips can't roll enough to allow more forward angle.

Bringing the clip ons over the top of the triple clamps would go a long ways to making the pegs more comfortable; if they didn't interfere with the fairing when you do so.

I can certainly understand why a bike as attractive as the 30 year anniversary would bring someone into riding -- and I can easily understand why the ergos would eventually sour the relationship.

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"There's this adage that we have 2 ears and one mouth so we should listen twice as much as we talk. Unfortunately with the Internet people have taken this old adage and turned it around. They have two eyes and 10 fingers so they think they need to post 5 times as much as they read. And since they have 10 fingers and one brain, they only have to think 10% of the time! "
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I have a Ninja 1000 and I feel like it is a great balance between sport and comfort. It has plenty of power and lots of torque and also has a factory bag option. You can sit upright or tuck if needed. It's a very good all around bike. Plus there always seems to be a good variety of them used out there for very reasonable prices. If I didn't already have the zx6 for the track I would consider taking the Ninja 1000. They also have the Z1000 which is very similar so depending on what your after there are some great options.
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Seems like dealers that allow test rides are few and far between. Maybe a miracle if he finds one willing to let him have it for a day.

I am interested in the z8/900's. Seems like a fun bike but they seem like they are on the heavy side. In the Z800 vs. gsxs750 comparison the 800 was almost 100lbs heavier than the zuk. Not sure how that is even possible

EDIT: Looks like the trellis frame helps the Z900 go on a much needed diet, it is 50lbs lighter than the Z800.
The only way to get a test ride of any duration is to make use of a used bike in the dealer's inventory.....

a naked bike, with upright ergos, which weighs less than 450 lbs, has 100 HP or more is a general requirement for my personal definition of an all day, entertaining bike.

I honestly have very little concern with how it looks, as I don't look at it while I am riding it. Much more important that it does what I want, how I want, when I want it to.

Long travel suspension is a plus.... makes the number of roads you can ride greater. also improves the sightlines you can use. If you can see over the cars and light trucks, your safety margin is larger.

"Basic stuff fellas. Use your head for something other than to break your next fall."

"There's this adage that we have 2 ears and one mouth so we should listen twice as much as we talk. Unfortunately with the Internet people have taken this old adage and turned it around. They have two eyes and 10 fingers so they think they need to post 5 times as much as they read. And since they have 10 fingers and one brain, they only have to think 10% of the time! "
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The choice you are about to make depends on many factors.
My first bike was a 2006 Z750.
It was the definition of "fun to ride". It had the acceleration, the manuverability, it had soft suspension for the pot holes and to protect your back from. And you would ride sitting straight up.

But....Soft front suspension means worse stopping distance and many times i felt i was going to make a stoppie and flip over.
Wider handlebars means that you have less space to pass through stuck traffic and makes lane splitting more dangerous.(Well it feels so...)
And after 130km/h you feel the air on your chest and your nose touches the front of your helmet....so you need a windscreen...But a windscreen makes a naked bike ugly...So, you hit the gym instead

And these are the reasons i probably wont be going back to a naked bike (anytime soon) and i'm 33
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Yeah, it's one thing if your commute has no traffic. If you're sitting in traffic on the ZX6R, it's a lot of shifting your body around to get to the ground, get back into position when rolling, etc. The ergos aren't great.

That said, I get the knock on cheap suspension, too. Many of the naked bikes do skimp on suspension components, and that affects how I ride, even if I'm not on the track. I don't like a soft/spongy front fork.

If you're not enjoying the ZX6R, do check out other bikes. Make sure you test ride, if you can, both a faired upright bike (Ninja 1000, Ninja 650, Hypermotard with windshield, DL650) AND a naked bike that's similar (Z1000, Z900, Hypermotard, SV650, Street Triple). You might find you like the fairing.

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Try a FZ1 2006 or later model. Great motor, good riding position, decent suspension for a streetable bike and its a Yamaha( that's good too).
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Commuting on a naked bike sucks. I go for a fairing. At least a little one......
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I've ridden from San Diego to Portland, Oregon behind a National Cycle Deflector on a 1985 V65 Sabre..... 70+ MPH for 14 hours, no problem. Pretty much a Honda Nighthawk on steroids. Big flat seat, roomy bars, decent foot peg placement, big fuel tank. Add a throttle lock and go interstate. That thing had a 65" wheelbase, and a dry weight of 560+ lbs.

The '09 Ninja is a better performing bike in every category, except comfort.

My '05 FZ6 had better ergos than the ZX6 does, but the fairing produced horrible buffeting, and the cheap suspension components really let it down.

I'd try an FZ9 with a fly screen, as nearly ideal. I really need to look into that for when the ZX has hit the highest mileage I dare.

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The Kwaks are way too heavy. I tried the Z800, it felt like a pig compared to the Street Triple. Weird feeling having your head out in the air with nothing in front of you (Z800) too. I settled on the Street Triple. These people that say you need a fairing are talking out their arses. I have a little flyscreen on my Streetie and it did nothing. Having said that when it is windy I will take my Street Triple over the ZX6R because it handles the wind a hell of a lot better - the ZX6R gets pushed around if the wind is from the side as the fairing acts like a sail. On the other side of the coin I can't ride that bike over 130mph because it's painful (ZX6R shines here). Under 90mph it is perfect and I get no neck-strain. Try one, you might like it. But I am spoiled, I have both. One for the track, one for commuting.
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