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post #1 of 27 Old 02-23-2017, 06:40 PM Thread Starter
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Thoughts on the ZX10?

I took their demo unit out for a test ride and man! The pull on this thing is on a whole different level, when you hit the high rpm's though.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm losing sleep over the 10, especially when they revealed pics of the RR, but I love the nimbleness on the ZX6R a lot more. Between that and (what felt like) the smoother power delivery on the 6, part of me is hesitant to move up to the 10. Or is this my mind playing games on me to keep me from wasting more money on this addiction? What are your thoughts? I'm taking it out again on Saturday for a longer ride.



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Keep both?

The ZX10 is an animal for sure but as you mentioned I prefer the more nimble ZX6
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Keep both?

The ZX10 is an animal for sure but as you mentioned I prefer the more nimble ZX6
I feel like I'd abandon if the 6 if i got the 10 though.. two superbikes would be pushing it I think.

Plus I'd be looking to trade the 6 in for an RR, that thing is gorgeous!

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I feel like I'd abandon if the 6 if i got the 10 though.. two superbikes would be pushing it I think.

Plus I'd be looking to trade the 6 in for an RR, that thing is gorgeous!
The 6 is not a superbike. It's a supersport.

Also, why do people always refer to getting a bigger displacement bike as an "upgrade" or saying "moving up to"? And why do it so quick (after all you just got the 6 not long ago)? I had a Ducati 1198, and after I parted that out, I went to a CBR500 and a 7-year old zx6r. I did not consider that to be a downgrade at all. For one, I went from 1 toy with a loan on it to 2 toys with no loan on either. On top of that I also became a better rider shortly after than change, and continued to get better/faster throughout that year. I attribute a lot of that to the change in bikes.

Don't get me wrong, I really want another liter bike, if I had the money for it now. But not at the cost of losing the ones I have now and I just don't look at them as upgrades. To me an upgrade would be going from an 2005 zx6r for example to a 2015 zx6r. In fact my cbr500 is for sale now and I already have an R3 as a replacement. That I consider a bit of an upgrade even though they're in the same class of bikes and the R3 is actually a smaller displacement. Each bike has a different role and purpose.
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Fair points there.

However, going from 600cc to 1000cc is an upgrade, going from 135hp to almost 200 is also an upgrade, so is the OEM quick shifter, steering damper and many other neat toys you get with the 10. Yes it's not an upgrade to your pocket or in the nimbleness/forgiveness department which is what is somewhat holding me back.

They have the RR in the showroom which is what really got my pants tight, had it not been for that, I wouldn't be looking at the 10 so soon. I mean can you blame me??

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Fair points there.

However, going from 600cc to 1000cc is an upgrade, going from 135hp to almost 200 is also an upgrade, so is the OEM quick shifter, steering damper and many other neat toys you get with the 10. Yes it's not an upgrade to your pocket or in the nimbleness/forgiveness department which is what is somewhat holding me back.
Not really, that's what I'm trying to say. A McLaren P1 would not be an upgrade to my Dodge Ram 1500. It's just a different type of car for a totally different purpose. It can't haul anything, it can't tow a trailer, it can't go over a rougher terrain, it can't hold 5 people, etc. More power doesn't necessarily mean upgrade, that's what I'm trying to say. Now a 2017 Dodge Ram 2500 would on the other hand be an upgrade because it's the same type of vehicle but pretty much better in every way.

Going back to my example before, I would even venture to say that after having that Ducati 1198, now I "upgraded" to that CBR500 and the ZX6R because now I can race in lightweight class AND middleweight, which before I couldn't. If I was in the market for a big bike now, it wouldn't be an "upgrade", it would simply be another bike for another function, which for me would be to be able to race in unlimited racing classes. Again...different types of bikes for different functions.

It's just a terminology thing...which bugs me I guess lol. I've also seen people say "moving up to a 1000cc bike", and then they crash it right away because they can't handle it. Yeah, you didn't really move "up" now did you? lol

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LOL did you seriously compare the difference between a 600 and a 1000 to the difference between a Ram and McLaren P1? Not fair man! This is more like a McLaren 650 vs McLaren P1! Yes the p1 is faster and more expensive and will kill you in the wrong hands, but don't tell me it's not an upgrade come on!

PS: Dodge & Ram are two different brands, no such thing as a Dodge Ram haha
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PS: Dodge & Ram are two different brands, no such thing as a Dodge Ram haha
Umm...no they're not lol. Says Dodge all over my truck lol
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Umm...no they're not lol. Says Dodge all over my truck lol
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Huh...I thought it was just a separate business unit but still attached to Dodge. Still makes me wonder why they still have the Dodge badges on them? I can see for the ones before 2010, but mine's a 2014...

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I just came back from a two hour ride on the 10 on full power mode, and let me just say, it is an upgrade in every department!!! Sorry SBK haha

Call me crazy but I'm already shopping for ZX10 exhausts
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I just came back from a two hour ride on the 10 on full power mode, and let me just say, it is an upgrade in every department!!! Sorry SBK haha

Call me crazy but I'm already shopping for ZX10 exhausts
Out of curiosity, how long have you been riding?
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I have a 2008 ZX6R, a 2014 ZX10R and a 2016 ZX10R. I sold my other '08 ZX6R. I only take the 600 around the block once in a while just to keep it from seizing up. Take that 10 for that longer ride, then come back and get on your 6. After getting used to having all that power it really is hard (for me) to go back. I have my 2016 ZX10R up for sale. Thinking about replacing it with a 650, or an FJR. I am all over the map.
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