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post #1 of 21 Old 03-01-2017, 02:17 PM Thread Starter
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My hopes and dreams are coming true. They're making a V4! Hopefully by the end of 2018 I'll pick up a leftover or demo model from that year. I just hope I can afford it by then!

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post #2 of 21 Old 03-01-2017, 02:37 PM
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Really...? The cost/fun ratio is going to be way to high for me to justify. I've learned to love the Japanese reliability and functionality, and leave finicky and over-priced stuff to someone else. I'll just drool over yours if that's alright...
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Really...? The cost/fun ratio is going to be way to high for me to justify. I've learned to love the Japanese reliability and functionality, and leave finicky and over-priced stuff to someone else. I'll just drool over yours if that's alright...
The newer Ducatis are just as reliable for the most part. I never had any issues with my 1198, which was a track bike most of its life. The newer gen is even better. Reliability doesn't scare me...they've improved a LOT in the last 10 years.

Functionality?? We're talking sport bikes. They're all the same lol. A zx10r is no more or less functional than a Panigale or RSV4 or any other bike in the same category.

I've been a fan for a long time. The 1198 is still the coolest bike I've ever owned, and I told myself a while back that if or when Ducati makes a V4 for their flagship superbike (which they'll use in WSBK), I will make every effort I can to get one. Ever since I've ridden my friend's RSV4, I fell in love with the V4, so I really considered an RSV4, but there are a few little things I don't quite like about them, so having a V4 engine in a Ducati is the best of both worlds and perfect combination for me.
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Now all they need to do is make an inline 4 ducati . That would anger a lot of Ducatistas.
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Now all they need to do is make an inline 4 ducati . That would anger a lot of Ducatistas.
LOL probably would! You might as well just get a ZX10R or GSXR1000 and slap some Ducati decals on it then lol.

Personally I hate the high-pitch whiny sound of I4 engines...which is ironic because I'm on a zx6r forum and I own one lol. But that's not why I got my zx6r. If there were any options other than an I3 or I4 in the 600 class, I probably would not have a zx6r now lol. But all the competitive bikes in this class are I4, with a couple of I3 ones, both of which are generally more expensive too, and they sound just as whiny to me.

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LOL probably would! You might as well just get a ZX10R or GSXR1000 and slap some Ducati decals on it then lol.

Personally I hate the high-pitch whiny sound of I4 engines...which is ironic because I'm on a zx6r forum and I own one lol. But that's not why I got my zx6r. If there were any options other than an I3 or I4 in the 600 class, I probably would not have a zx6r now lol. But all the competitive bikes in this class are I4, with a couple of I3 ones, both of which are generally more expensive too, and they sound just as whiny to me.
At least they finally came to the realization that constant tweaking of WSBK rules to help them is not the way to go. Last thing I remember is that now the gearboxes have sealed ratios throughout the season and that gives Ducati the advantage.

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At least they finally came to the realization that constant tweaking of WSBK rules to help them is not the way to go. Last thing I remember is that now the gearboxes have sealed ratios throughout the season and that gives Ducati the advantage.
Yeah, that's what I've been saying for years. I was pretty disappointed actually when they announced the 1299, regardless of how cool that bike actually is. Adding more displacement is just lazy engineering. Anyone can do that and say "hey look, my bike makes more power now". Yeah, no shit! Granted, their R version is still 1200cc which is what's used in WSBK, but in club racing they allow unlimited displacement for the big classes. I wanted to see more innovation...after all they have an amazing V4 1000cc engine for their GP bikes. I figured they could at least detune it a bit, and stick it in a production bike. They could easily have a 210-hp bike with a reliable engine.

Nevertheless, sounds like this article is just more click-bait stuff because it's nothing new. Similar articles came out in January, and there's nothing new hear either if you read the words carefully. There is nothing actually confirmed yet....so I'll continue to just hope for now, but it's looking promising so far
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Just the ridiculous cost of maintenance/service is enough to turn me away... I loved my 900 ss sp and 916, but finding good service at a reasonable price turned me away for good...
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Just the ridiculous cost of maintenance/service is enough to turn me away... I loved my 900 ss sp and 916, but finding good service at a reasonable price turned me away for good...
Lol yeah, but lots has changed since then. The bikes you had were in the midst of the poor reliability/lots of maintenance era. Pretty much all the newer models have 15,000 mile valve check intervals, which is the same as most japanese ones, not the 6000-mile or less that the 916 had. No more cam belts to replace every 2 years anymore either, and many other updates. Plus the cost of that is not that bad. In fact my local Ducati dealer has lower labor rates than my local Kawasaki/Honda/Yamaha/Suzuki/Polaris dealer. The Ducati dealer charges $95/hour for most basic things and $125/hour for more specialized service like engine rebuilds, suspension work and things that not every mechanic can do. Meanwhile the other one charges $135/hour I think for everything last I heard.

I even go to the Ducati dealer for other things like last week I went there to swap tires and swap a spring on the Ohlins shock, and it's an hour drive for me as oppose to 5 minutes to the other dealer. Still came out cheaper and their staff is much much friendlier and good to work with. The high cost of maintenance is a dying myth that unfortunately isn't going away fast enough because many people remember them for how it was 10+ years ago and they seem to have their minds set regardless of the improvements made and that today all of that is simply not true anymore.

I wouldn't touch any Ducati superbike pre-2009ish with a 10-ft pole, but anything made after that, I would be totally fine and confident with.
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Saw your post, made me think of a BMW a buddy said he will give me a steal on.
If the leathers he sold me are an indication, I got to get it..

But do I need it.. NO, doesn't stop me from wanting it. BAD..
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Honda is coming with a 1000cc V4 as well, and it looks a lot like the RCV213 but not as expensive... believe it should come in cheaper than the Duc as well...
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Honda is coming with a 1000cc V4 as well, and it looks a lot like the RCV213 but not as expensive... believe it should come in cheaper than the Duc as well...
Yeah but Honda's been saying that for many years now. Lots of people thought the new CBR1000 would be a V4 and that was a huge disappointment. Their real V4 was also a huge disappointment because it was a limited edition GP replica that costs a fortune. So I'll believe it when I see it. Don't think I'll be buying another Honda anytime soon anyway...they're not really on good track in my book when it comes to sport bikes. Had a 600, which wasn't that great, now they're not even going to make them anymore. Their 1000 is a disappointment and has been behind the competition for quite a few years now. Their 500 (which I have) is heavy and even though has more displacement it's not as good as the competition either. Their 250 was a joke too when they came up with that. And their pricing on all of this is similar to others...so I really don't get their bikes. I guess if someone wants a boring looking bike that's not as good as the competition for the same price, get a Honda

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These days, I just like to be able to show up at a track event and have the bike start and run without a hitch. What it looks like is not a concern anymore. Nothing sucks more than waiting for that one rare day you get to be at the track and have your exotic beauty refuse to cooperate!
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