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These Would Be Nice Features For A Motorcycle Tire....

This is for Pirelli's car tires, but some of the features would be good for motorcycle tires as well, I think.




Pirelli offering colored tires, tires that talk to an app

Each tire has a small chip embedded in its sidewall that weighs just a few grams and doesn't disrupt the balance of the tire.


The chip measures tire pressure, tire temperature, vertical load, tire wear, and the number of kilometers driven per tire. Pirelli says a future version will also estimate remaining tire life and act as a remote tire pressure gauge when the tires are being inflated. The current version also alerts the driver through the smartphone app when the pressure of one or more of the tires drops too low or when the wear limit is approaching.

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Trying Pirellis for the first time this season, DSC SC2's, but after all the reviews and contracts I think if its remotely successful with car tires we would see them come over to the moto tires. Not sure how successful it would be for race tires, but would be pretty damn nice to have this data for longer lasting track tires and street tires for sure.
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That sounds really cool. I'd agree it's more useful on the street most of the time than at the track, but that's where the vast majority of riding is done anyway so it will suit Pirelli.

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I think some of the data would be perfect for race tires.

Race tires are designed to perform optimally (ie, maximum grip) at a specific temperature range. Often tire pressure is set to keep the tire temperature in that sweet spot. A lot of track people have to adjust tire pressure from cool mornings to hot afternoons. I think this tool may help them.
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I do too, but it sounds kinda funny..........
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Very cool. I seem to recall one of the manufacturers had an app that could tell you lean angle/temp etc. via the app where you took a snapshot of the tyre.

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I think some of the data would be perfect for race tires.

Race tires are designed to perform optimally (ie, maximum grip) at a specific temperature range. Often tire pressure is set to keep the tire temperature in that sweet spot. A lot of track people have to adjust tire pressure from cool mornings to hot afternoons. I think this tool may help them.
Exactly. I think it would be great for race tires actually. I'd use it if it was available.
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Would love to know how they are powering this gizmo. All the tyre-pressure monitoring systems (e.g. Triumph) I've seen are attached to the inside of the rim. Always thought something that used magnetic induction (we have LED lane strips on the highways that use this) or Seiko's motion technology could work.

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I was thinking in terms of how often racers go through race tires for the tech to actually be viable/ cost effective if installed on the side wall and not on the rim. While the data would be welcomed by pretty much any rider out there I imagine, the cost to obtain such data may not be worth it monetarily in the end. I suppose it would really come down to cost of the tires if installed on the sidewalls of each tire.
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I think some of the data would be perfect for race tires.

Race tires are designed to perform optimally (ie, maximum grip) at a specific temperature range. Often tire pressure is set to keep the tire temperature in that sweet spot. A lot of track people have to adjust tire pressure from cool mornings to hot afternoons. I think this tool may help them.
Completely agree. I would be elated to know at a glance what my tire pressure and temperature was. There are differences in the grip of the tire with as little as a half pound difference and there is a fine line between maximum grip and overheating (and slippery). Having that data would allow me to fine tune my pressures and get to that maximum grip far easier.

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I was thinking in terms of how often racers go through race tires for the tech to actually be viable/ cost effective if installed on the side wall and not on the rim. While the data would be welcomed by pretty much any rider out there I imagine, the cost to obtain such data may not be worth it monetarily in the end. I suppose it would really come down to cost of the tires if installed on the sidewalls of each tire.
Honestly we already spend thousands (tens of thousands in some cases) on tires. Adding another $500 to the total is hardly going to be noticed, especially for the benefits.
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Honestly we already spend thousands (tens of thousands in some cases) on tires. Adding another $500 to the total is hardly going to be noticed, especially for the benefits.
$500 to a yearly total would seem like a clear yes in my eyes as getting any edge in a race is worth it, but I dont race so I dont have any experience with going through tires like that. I suppose it begs the question what would be the cut off point, price wise, where you would be on the fence?
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It would be awesome if they could include some Ferrous material in the tyre compound. Then I could actually say that my bike is a pussy magnet.
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