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Cbr - Best chassis and ergonomics, lower on power. standard clutch. 2008- is the same bike.

R6 - Most powerful of the 600 cc bikes, a bit longer "cockpit", 2009- is the same bike until the 2017 one. There are not much differences though, mostly fairings. Slipper clutch as standard.

zx6, less powerful then r6, but with better chassis. Also a longer seating, so good for tall persons. slipper clutch as a standard. 2009-15 is the same bike, only engine is different. Adjustments should be made to rear shock if swapped between 09-12 and 13-15. Slight differences in 2016, very slight.

Daytona 675 - A bit smaller bike like the cbr, also with great handling and known to be very nimble. 3 cylinders gives more torque in the bottom of the rpms, but down 9hp from r6 and zx6. Basicly same bike 06-12, minor adjustments after that, oil cooler added 2008, engines rarely live longer then approximatly 30000km

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Have a 2012 CBR600RR and a 2014 ZX6R, to me the ergonomics of the ZX6R are better. The CBR makes my knee bend just a little more which is a little problem since I smashed my kneecap and the bend on the CBR is just past the uncomfortable point but the ZX6R is not. ZX6R has more power down low but the CBR seems to pull really well at high RPMs. I like the ABS and traction control on the ZX6R, traction control on my CBR is built into my right wrist which works well most of the time.
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Cbr - Best chassis and ergonomics, lower on power. standard clutch. 2008- is the same bike.

R6 - Most powerful of the 600 cc bikes, a bit longer "cockpit", 2009- is the same bike until the 2017 one. There are not much differences though, mostly fairings. Slipper clutch as standard.

zx6, less powerful then r6, but with better chassis. Also a longer seating, so good for tall persons. slipper clutch as a standard. 2009-15 is the same bike, only engine is different. Adjustments should be made to rear shock if swapped between 09-12 and 13-15. Slight differences in 2016, very slight.

Daytona 675 - A bit smaller bike like the cbr, also with great handling and known to be very nimble. 3 cylinders gives more torque in the bottom of the rpms, but down 9hp from r6 and zx6. Basicly same bike 06-12, minor adjustments after that, oil cooler added 2008, engines rarely live longer then approximatly 30000km

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2013+ has different engine, electronics, brakes, suspension etc. are you high? Lol
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Daytona 675 - A bit smaller bike like the cbr, also with great handling and known to be very nimble. 3 cylinders gives more torque in the bottom of the rpms, but down 9hp from r6 and zx6. Basicly same bike 06-12, minor adjustments after that, oil cooler added 2008, engines rarely live longer then approximatly 30000km
You what? Ok, I guess I should turn down the rip-snorter '08 675 I rode last month that had over 50000km and felt tight as. I should probably be worried about my own Triumph Street Triple which is rapidly approaching 40000km... Pretty sure the '13+ made 128hp and the previous bikes only a couple of hp down from that.
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You what? Ok, I guess I should turn down the rip-snorter '08 675 I rode last month that had over 50000km and felt tight as. I should probably be worried about my own Triumph Street Triple which is rapidly approaching 40000km...


It's funny that you bring the 675 up cuz I ride with a buddy that's got one and it's several inches narrower and has a smaller back tire on it but it can jump off the line like nobody's business. His is a 2014 and it's a amazing looking bike but way too expensive for what you get. It does favor Ducati or BMW though his is a triumph Daytona 675. Wasn't till I saw on here that it actually only has an inline 3 on it.


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Street version has different electronics, yes. The fairings are not the same, it has 1mm extra bore, or stroke, I don't remember right now. Anyway, the frame is the same, engine is a direct swap, just as suspension (also on the 2016 model), so for anyone who turns the electronics off, the difference riding it is 36cc, thats it.



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It's funny that you bring the 675 up cuz I ride with a buddy that's got one and it's several inches narrower and has a smaller back tire on it but it can jump off the line like nobody's business. His is a 2014 and it's a amazing looking bike but way too expensive for what you get. It does favor Ducati or BMW though his is a triumph Daytona 675. Wasn't till I saw on here that it actually only has an inline 3 on it.
Yeah, they're triples and full of character. Plus they're a good 8kg lighter than the ZX so power to weight and all that stuff. I'd love a Daytona but found it too similar to my Streetie so hence I stuck with the ZX.
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Street version has different electronics, yes. The fairings are not the same, it has 1mm extra bore, or stroke, I don't remember right now. Anyway, the frame is the same, engine is a direct swap, just as suspension (also on the 2016 model), so for anyone who turns the electronics off, the difference riding it is 36cc, thats it.
37cc...and it makes a huge difference.

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You what? Ok, I guess I should turn down the rip-snorter '08 675 I rode last month that had over 50000km and felt tight as. I should probably be worried about my own Triumph Street Triple which is rapidly approaching 40000km... Pretty sure the '13+ made 128hp and the previous bikes only a couple of hp down from that.


Great! They can live longer, absolutely, but a LOT of them retires after about 30000 - 35000km. Street triple lives a lot longer, it is more or less the same engine, I know, but the (first and foremost older, without the oil cooler) daytonas are a lot more fragile. Both of mine blew their head gaskets at about 32000/28000km, and those 2 were my first legally owned bikes.



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It's funny that you bring the 675 up cuz I ride with a buddy that's got one and it's several inches narrower and has a smaller back tire on it but it can jump off the line like nobody's business. His is a 2014 and it's a amazing looking bike but way too expensive for what you get. It does favor Ducati or BMW though his is a triumph Daytona 675. Wasn't till I saw on here that it actually only has an inline 3 on it.


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You keep mentioning width, but you never answered my question of "which width??" Tail width? Seat width? Gas tank width? Bar end to bar end width?? I can pretty well guarantee you the 675 is not SEVERAL inches narrower. All the middleweights are very close in size...all sizes, wheelbase, seat height, widths at various points, etc. Differences are small between them. In the 1 inch range for most things.

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Great! They can live longer, absolutely, but a LOT of them retires after about 30000 - 35000km. Street triple lives a lot longer, it is more or less the same engine, I know, but the (first and foremost older, without the oil cooler) daytonas are a lot more fragile. Both of mine blew their head gaskets at about 32000/28000km, and those 2 were my first legally owned bikes.
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37cc...and it makes a huge difference.


Yeah, completely different bike, like, adding a thinner head gasket, or, still has the same stated 135hp just like the 599cc version, that still gets beaten by the r6 that always has a hp or 2 extra on the dyno.



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You keep mentioning width, but you never answered my question of "which width??" Tail width? Seat width? Gas tank width? Bar end to bar end width?? I can pretty well guarantee you the 675 is not SEVERAL inches narrower. All the middleweights are very close in size...all sizes, wheelbase, seat height, widths at various points, etc. Differences are small between them. In the 1 inch range for most things.


Over all width of the bike from one side of the fairings to the other side.


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You keep mentioning width, but you never answered my question of "which width??" Tail width? Seat width? Gas tank width? Bar end to bar end width?? I can pretty well guarantee you the 675 is not SEVERAL inches narrower. All the middleweights are very close in size...all sizes, wheelbase, seat height, widths at various points, etc. Differences are small between them. In the 1 inch range for most things.


Yea but when your talking sport bikes that's a lot in my opinion. The tire is about an inch or close to 2 inches skinnier too.


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