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Bought my first bike less than a month ago & dropped it twice already.

Hello everybody I'm MaFiA from the city of Chicago in Illinois & I'm pissed.

I got into motorcycles at the end of April this year. The urge literally came seemingly out of nowhere. Well not exactly out of nowhere, because what sparked it was when my girl asked me "have you ever thought about riding motorcycles?" Which was a funny question because before she asked the answer was something like "Nah not really" but after she asked I could NOT stop thinking about them. I'd read up on them every day, watch YouTube videos, visit bike shops, etc every single day and i could not hold a conversation without integrating motorcycles somewhere within them. I was having bike fever.

Fast forward a month later and I took the safety course, got my M endorsement on my license, and bought a 2015 Kawasaki ZX-6R with 2 miles on it. It's the 30th year anniversary edition too so the paint job is (was) beautiful.


Same day I bought it, I go to get gas. It's pouring down raining and I have to go up a slight incline before I can decline into the station. On my way down from the incline, my front tire gets stuck in mud and the bike tips over. I was literally walking my bike, so the damage was minimal. Nothing but a scratch on my exhaust, and I planned on buying an aftermarket muffler anyway so no biggie.

Fast forward to literally 2 nights ago. I've been riding like a boss for a few weeks so I'm getting overly confident and riding like a dumbass. I'm talking squeezing between cars on the expressway doing 90+mph, hitting turns with my knee near the ground, everything. I'm stroking my own ego n shit like wow for a guy that just learned to ride a month ago I sure am doing the damn thing!! So some friends and I hit the beach. The parking lot is sandy as all hell but I had no idea how much traction is lost when riding in sand (shame on me). Basically as I'm leaving the lot I hit a turn harder than the sand allowed and straight lost control and tipped over. I was in a parking lot so I literally was only going like 10mph but the scratches on my bike still have me sick a whole 2 days later. Still not showing any signs of feeling better for a while either, which is what convinced me to sign up and share my story.

This literally isn't even a case of "newbies shouldn't start on a 600" unless you want to mention the fact that my bike is heavier than a 250/300 which made it harder to regain control or whatever but alas, what's done is done.

I'll post pictures when I get home so yall can tell me exactly how bad I screwed up. Yes I plan on investing in frame sliders but I also need to know about how much I'm going to have to spend for my stupid mistakes. Seeing as how it's a special edition paint job I don't even see a side fairing for sale for the paint scheme I have...Im guessing it would just be cheaper to get it painted, especially since the scratch and the scrape is fairly small, but the scrape is going into the green black AND white of the detail. Please help me guys idk what the hell I should do and honestly this whole ordeal has killed my riding spirit. Not that I'm scared to ride or anything because I'm still confident in my ability but both of my mishaps was under 10 mph and just really unfortunate events that were completely avoidable. I feel like a screw up and I don't have the money to repair my otherwise beautiful bike. I have about $200 to spend and I'm 99% sure that's not going to cut it.


I know you guys can't tell me much without the pics so I'll post them ASAP. Sorry for the long read but I really need advice from the more experienced. I paid $10,600 out the door for this beauty and Ive damaged my investment in less than a month! This shit hurts





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I have some advice my friend.... Become a better rider. I promise I don't say this to to be a dick... but you need to hear this.. You've been riding motorcycles for 2 months?!? not supersport motorcycles...not this is my first bike off the dirt....What the fuck are you doing lane splitting doing 90 You have now dropped the bike twice doing less than 15... You above putting it down at 90? You literally know nothing about what it takes to make a motorcycle operate effectively and efficiently as it was designed to do...The MFS course teaches you how to keep the bike upright...Did they teach you anything about contact patch weight distribution? Do you know what happens when you break traction on the rear and it suddenly catches again? how about if you became overconfident going into a turn and realize you're in wayyy to hot...What do you do? You are currently riding beyond 6 skill levels and you need to scale it back...Otherwise one of us is going to have to post a rider down thread!!!


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Hello everybody I'm MaFiA from the city of Chicago in Illinois & I'm pissed.

I got into motorcycles at the end of April this year. The urge literally came seemingly out of nowhere. Well not exactly out of nowhere, because what sparked it was when my girl asked me "have you ever thought about riding motorcycles?" Which was a funny question because before she asked the answer was something like "Nah not really" but after she asked I could NOT stop thinking about them. I'd read up on them every day, watch YouTube videos, visit bike shops, etc every single day and i could not hold a conversation without integrating motorcycles somewhere within them. I was having bike fever.

Fast forward a month later and I took the safety course, got my M endorsement on my license, and bought a 2015 Kawasaki ZX-6R with 2 miles on it. It's the 30th year anniversary edition too so the paint job is (was) beautiful.


Same day I bought it, I go to get gas. It's pouring down raining and I have to go up a slight incline before I can decline into the station. On my way down from the incline, my front tire gets stuck in mud and the bike tips over. I was literally walking my bike, so the damage was minimal. Nothing but a scratch on my exhaust, and I planned on buying an aftermarket muffler anyway so no biggie.

Fast forward to literally 2 nights ago. I've been riding like a boss for a few weeks so I'm getting overly confident and riding like a dumbass. I'm talking squeezing between cars on the expressway doing 90+mph, hitting turns with my knee near the ground, everything. I'm stroking my own ego n shit like wow for a guy that just learned to ride a month ago I sure am doing the damn thing!! So some friends and I hit the beach. The parking lot is sandy as all hell but I had no idea how much traction is lost when riding in sand (shame on me). Basically as I'm leaving the lot I hit a turn harder than the sand allowed and straight lost control and tipped over. I was in a parking lot so I literally was only going like 10mph but the scratches on my bike still have me sick a whole 2 days later. Still not showing any signs of feeling better for a while either, which is what convinced me to sign up and share my story.

This literally isn't even a case of "newbies shouldn't start on a 600" unless you want to mention the fact that my bike is heavier than a 250/300 which made it harder to regain control or whatever but alas, what's done is done.

I'll post pictures when I get home so yall can tell me exactly how bad I screwed up. Yes I plan on investing in frame sliders but I also need to know about how much I'm going to have to spend for my stupid mistakes. Seeing as how it's a special edition paint job I don't even see a side fairing for sale for the paint scheme I have...Im guessing it would just be cheaper to get it painted, especially since the scratch and the scrape is fairly small, but the scrape is going into the green black AND white of the detail. Please help me guys idk what the hell I should do and honestly this whole ordeal has killed my riding spirit. Not that I'm scared to ride or anything because I'm still confident in my ability but both of my mishaps was under 10 mph and just really unfortunate events that were completely avoidable. I feel like a screw up and I don't have the money to repair my otherwise beautiful bike. I have about $200 to spend and I'm 99% sure that's not going to cut it.


I know you guys can't tell me much without the pics so I'll pay them ASAP. Sorry for the long read but I really need advice from the more experienced. I paid $10,600 out the door for this beauty and Ive damaged my investment in less than a month! This shit hurts
Two (actually 3) things that secure my thoughts on WHY you shouldn't have started on that particular displacement bike.

1. Your own sentiments about riding like a doofas. "so I'm getting overly confident and riding like a dumbass." At least you realize that you're riding like a dumbass. These aren't toys. Do you love your girlfriend? Do you want her to have to get "that phoone call". I think not. Slow your roll man.

2. "This literally isn't even a case of "newbies shouldn't start on a 600" unless you want to mention the fact that my bike is heavier than a 250/300 which made it harder to regain control or whatever but alas, what's done is done." - Actually.... this is a perfect case for that "newbies shouldn't" statement. The reason isn't the power or the weight. It's the cost. As a new rider you WILL... let me repeat that.... YOU WILL DROP THE BIKE. So you have a $10k+ bike and you've got about a gnats ass worth of experience compared to someone who's been riding over a year. If you had bought a used starter bike... the overall cost of fixing it (if you even wanted to ... or even HAD to) would be considerably less than that pretty anniversary edition 636. Period. The end. See.... I didn't bring displacement OR weight into that reasoning.

3. You have absolutely NO experience and you're already riding at 90+ between cars? See again that part about your girlfriend getting "that call". Then replace it with "your family". It's "OK" to start on that bike... IF YOU RESPECT IT. It's not a bike that takes well to mistakes. Which as a new rider YOU WILL MAKE. (see #2 for expensive repairs).

Hopefully you've learned some valuable lessons with your new hobby. I'd seriously suggest that you take a more advanced class. MSF teaches you bascic operation of a motorcycle. It doesn't teach you control. Another option is to find a big open parking lot and learn how to stop the bike. Seriously... sounds stupid but start... then stop. Do it over and over again. Get used to the brakes. Learn how to turn. Learn how to shift properly.

AND GET SOME GOOD GEAR. (if you haven't already.)
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Welcome hommie...Hope you stick around a while
^^^ This too....

*IF* you decide to stick around and take advice like its meant to be taken (knowing that those of us here only want to help you learn to be a better rider) then you'll definitely have made the right choice.
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I have some advice my friend.... Become a better rider. I promise I don't say this to to be a dick... but you need to hear this.. You've been riding motorcycles for 2 months?!? not supersport motorcycles...not this is my first bike off the dirt....What the fuck are you doing lane splitting doing 90 You have now dropped the bike twice doing less than 15... You above putting it down at 90? You literally know nothing about what it takes to make a motorcycle operate effectively and efficiently as it was designed to do...The MFS course teaches you how to keep the bike upright...Did they teach you anything about contact patch weight distribution? Do you know what happens when you break traction on the rear and it suddenly catches again? how about if you became overconfident going into a turn and realize you're in wayyy to hot...What do you do? You are currently riding beyond 6 skill levels and you need to scale it back...Otherwise one of us is going to have to post a rider down thread!!!


Welcome hommie...Hope you stick around a while
Thanks bro I appreciate that. Honestly Im a hard head ************ so the only thing that's gets through my thick skull is some blunt criticism and telling it like it is. No candy coated bs so I definitely appreciate that man you're absolutely right. I drive a 2013 Camaro SS and I've been riding fast cars all my life so my stupid ass somehow thought my driving technique would somehow translate into decent riding skill. BOY was I wrong. I've come to accept that now but I really would like to know how to repair e body on my bike. No real dents or anything but I do have a scratch and a scrape so I don't know if it would be less to have someone paint it or just to replace the whole side fairing. But once again with this special edition paint job I'm not even sure I'll ever get it back to the way it looked out the factory
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Get a used bike and do some track and get instruction.Get the proper gear and open yourself up to the world of sportbikes. Prepare to crash and crash hard because it will happen. That's how you learn and unfortunately that's also how you become faster and faster. Fearless to the point where the fear of death is overcome by the amazing sensation of speed. Then you will have no fear. ( miss that dudes posts )
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Thanks bro I appreciate that. Honestly Im a hard head ************ so the only thing that's gets through my thick skull is some blunt criticism and telling it like it is. No candy coated bs so I definitely appreciate that man you're absolutely right. I drive a 2013 Camaro SS and I've been riding fast cars all my life so my stupid ass somehow thought my driving technique would somehow translate into decent riding skill. BOY was I wrong. I've come to accept that now but I really would like to know how to repair e body on my bike. No real dents or anything but I do have a scratch and a scrape so I don't know if it would be less to have someone paint it or just to replace the whole side fairing. But once again with this special edition paint job I'm not even sure I'll ever get it back to the way it looked out the factory
Cool man.. Np. Anytime... Now that we got that out the way... As was mentioned before you're probably gonna ride in this rodeo again.. I'd recommend dropping 500 bucks on some cheap Chinese plastics you don't reallllly care about, store your oems until you feel your ready to throw em back on. By that time you'll have been able to sand bondo sand fill paint and clear the old plastics to new again
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I understand, pics will be up by tonight.


@PowerGroove yea I invested in some good gear already safety first for sure. Which sounds funny considering my riding/driving habits but yea. Same day I bought my bike I geared up in some Joe Rocket with a matching helmet.

But again, I'm mostly concerned about the cost of repair now. I've spend the last 2 days coming down on myself fit being a gotdamn idiot, so the acceptance phase is over. Now I need to fix the problem. Obviously the first step to fixing this shit is understanding that I fucking suck at riding (relative to, yknow, the people who aren't out here destroying their 5 figure investments) but the second step is getting my baby fixed. I feel like a bad parent you guys i must make things right with her!!!
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Thanks bro I appreciate that. Honestly Im a hard head ************ so the only thing that's gets through my thick skull is some blunt criticism and telling it like it is. No candy coated bs so I definitely appreciate that man you're absolutely right. I drive a 2013 Camaro SS and I've been riding fast cars all my life so my stupid ass somehow thought my driving technique would somehow translate into decent riding skill. BOY was I wrong. I've come to accept that now but I really would like to know how to repair e body on my bike. No real dents or anything but I do have a scratch and a scrape so I don't know if it would be less to have someone paint it or just to replace the whole side fairing. But once again with this special edition paint job I'm not even sure I'll ever get it back to the way it looked out the factory
Honestly... your best bet is to get the piece from the factory to replace the scratched up fairings. It's not gonna be cheap. But the cost might make you remember that you're still new at this.

Glad you can see the error of your ways. I sold bikes for many years and I can't tell you how many guys like you came in saying stuff like "but I track my car and drive a mustang... it's pretty much the same thing right?". NOPE! DEFINITELY NOT! I know guys that are professional stunters that can't ride a sport bike fast. ie: race track, hard canyon carving... (Clint Ewing said this to me not even 18 months ago... and he's currently on a national tour).
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Cool man.. Np. Anytime... Now that we got that out the way... As was mentioned before you're probably gonna ride in this rodeo again.. I'd recommend dropping 500 bucks on some cheap Chinese plastics you don't reallllly care about, store your oems until you feel your ready to throw em back on. By that time you'll have been able to sand bondo sand fill paint and clear the old plastics to new again
I don't have 500 and I damn sure don't know how to restore my oem myself...
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Just color matched paint for this stuff costs a bundle. But you could look into getting them repainted.
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If you post a picture of the damage I'm sure we'll be able to get you through it
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Honestly... your best bet is to get the piece from the factory to replace the scratched up fairings. It's not gonna be cheap. But the cost might make you remember that you're still new at this.

Glad you can see the error of your ways. I sold bikes for many years and I can't tell you how many guys like you came in saying stuff like "but I track my car and drive a mustang... it's pretty much the same thing right?". NOPE! DEFINITELY NOT! I know guys that are professional stunters that can't ride a sport bike fast. ie: race track, hard canyon carving... (Clint Ewing said this to me not even 18 months ago... and he's currently on a national tour).
I looked at kawasaki official website and didn't see the side fairing for sale. You know how much it would cost?


Ima just chill on posting until I can get those pics up. I wish I had some people out here to ride with that can help me chill the hell out. Ive been lone wolfing it this whole time riding like the streets are mine and everyone/thing else are obstacles in my way.

Realizing these things about myself is why I haven't even touched my bike in 2 days and I don't plan on getting back on for a while

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I don't have 500 and I damn sure don't know how to restore my oem myself...
Well you're gonna choke when you find out how much a stock OEM fairing piece might cost.

No pics at all? I could help look into replacement parts for ya. But I need to know what needs replacing.

All in all... I know it might not look the way it did a few weeks ago... but that might be for the best at this point. You're gonna fall again most likely. (hopefully not) Might as well be on shitty fairings!

I forget to put my kickstand down on my current bike when it only had about 2000 miles on it. I was PISSED (I've been riding 23 years). I know the feeling man.... Know what I did? I rode the phucker. Never bothered to replace the plastics.

Now she's a full fledged track bastard... and I still have the old side fairings with those scratches. And honestly... I STILL always got "hey man... nice bike.. it's beautiful) all the time.

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