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post #1 of 19 Old 01-08-2017, 10:15 PM Thread Starter
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Hey guys, i'm Alex, I'm from Cali. 17 years old just graduated from highschool a semester early.
Ever since moto vlogging became a thing I became interested due to the nature of sport bikes.

I used to live in the county and I would have loved to own a bike there, but I have since moved to the shittiest suburbs in Sacramento. When I tell you my friend with 3 bolts in his foot, from his own personal low speed drop in residential, decides to give up bike life because of the everlasting threat of other drivers, not from his own situation... just shows what kind of dangers we face.

Joego101, 6Foot4Honda, Suburban delinquent, chase on two wheels and basically every other 'bikelife' representative have all encouraged me to continue my interest in motorcycles.
Now I have no experience, except for a chain/pedal driven bicycle. Does a 4 banger honda civic count, I mean my 07 zx6r with 12,000 miles is 4 cylinders too...

Picked this bike up around the 3rd week of December. Keep in mind this week of January, 2017 we have quite the flooding going on N/S California.

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Those of you Sierra Nevada hill billies na' sayin.

Anyways, so this bike is on Offer Up, I sell my civic, buy a bike for cash. Poor dude rode it to my house in 40 degree weather NO GLOVES for a good 30 minutes. I didn't have gear so he offered. 3200 later and a few bowls between us and a heated ride home for the seller the bike was mine. I mean who was I kidding, as soon as I sat on the bike I knew I wouldn't make it past the first freeway onramp.

Fast forward a month and i'm on two wheels! Took a good week of riding the clutch and learning how to stop. I didn't really tell anyone but first few days I took my bike to work I was riding it in 1st gear the whole time going like 40 in a 45 about 5 minutes from my house to work. Not bad. Finally I grew the balls to kick that shit up! After 2/3/4/5 gear, and downshifting/blipping while breaking I seem to understand the bike a whole lot more. The only things I won't be comfortable till years ahead is cornering.

So far residential turns, intersection turns no problem at 9-12 mph until I straighten out. Now is the time to wait till fucking Summer and learn how to lean on the bike better.

So first 600cc bike as a 17 year old? Only fears:
1) Other drivers (Any time i'm not hogging my own lane... Gopro will make any insurance claims in my favor)
2) Advanced Technique

Really getting a feel for the bike (460lb~ w/ fluids) is nothing. I'm 5'11'' and can flat foot a zx6r 07/08 model.
Learning clutch without prior physical (non internet guides) experience was nothing.
Learning throttle control was nothing.

Honestly it's maturity, and I can tell i'm not quite there yet to be able to hop on the freeway and hit 80 while being able to check the lane over to merge before the on ramp merging lane ends.
Also staying inside during flooding, any sort of cold that can frost my bike over if I leave it outside of work and i get off at a late time. I'd say I haven't ridden it for 2 weeks (Rain, Cold... Why should I take my super sport bike to a minimum wage job just so it could frost over each night). It takes 30 minutes (Taking my good time) to walk to work. Making a 100 a day without having to take my bike and have it constantly frost unlike in my garage makes the wait worthwhile.

Of course i'm saving for a beater civic, I just happened to be hard headed and got the sport bike mid winter. Just now waiting till spring.

I hope you all enjoyed reading my first experience. I have not dropped the bike, and I doubt I will for a good while. Like I said, probably will drop it due to other drivers, or lack of advanced technique... Say taking an onramp or any sort of 180 degree or higher turn at a higher rate of speed. Of course all of that takes time, and gradually pushing the bike will lead me to gradually learning more. So far i'm a solid rider apart from freeway action, I'll have plenty of time to get comfortable when it warms up. I have full gear, thermal gloves under protectant gloves, balaclava, etc.

I got the bike for 3200, Salvage. Fairings replaced with pretty good white China. Bar end left side is worn down from whatever drop. And the ONLY frame damage is literally the handle bar 'nicking' the frame behind. I'd say from that it still has 99.9% frame integrity.

I do have a question about my rear shock. The little bearing that it feeds into looks rusty as hell! It definitely does more to the aesthetic appearance I'm willing to bet, but what can I do to possibly replace or fix this rusting.


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post #2 of 19 Old 01-08-2017, 10:38 PM
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Welcome to the forum.

Advanced technique starts with the Basic Rider Course, through the MSF. All the things you are concerned about are explained in detail, with physical drills to learn the most efficient way to address each.

Riding a bike is not a physically demanding thing.... as you have already stated, it's all about the mental aspects of it. The more you know the better it gets.

Congrats on generating $3500 @ 17 years old. Can I presume you have an operator's license? Insurance? Have you considered adding any sort of frame and chassis protection so your investment survives your learning process? As you stated you are lacking in gear.... what are you doing about that? There are a number of sites that sell left over equipment/last season's styles for massive discounts. Right now, it's the right time to be buying summer gear. Clearances are substantial.

The rusty ring you see on your shock absorber is the coarse spring preload. If you wanted to change that, it's a pretty involved process as you would have to remove the shock from the bike. Personally, there's a lot of other preventative maintenance you should probably be looking at before you get wound up on that one....

Change the oil. Clean and lubricate the chain. Replace the brake fluid in both ends of the bike. Take a good look at the tires. If the person who sold it to you couldn't afford the most basic of riding gear, you have to think he may have skimped on the servicing on the bike.

Download the shop manual from this site for your bike..... again, knowledge is power. All of the scheduled maintenance requirements are listed there.

The other suggestions I would make to a 17 year old? Don't ride with anyone else, at this point. Far too easy to get sucked into d*ck behavior from trying to show off for each other. Stupid is, as stupid does.

"Basic stuff fellas. Use your head for something other than to break your next fall."

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07 zx6r is a great bike.. black is a better color... though mines going green...:/ regardless.. take the man course and get yourself to a track day. That is the best advice I can give you Track Day! The amount that i learned in one day is more than I did in 2 years of riding. Greatly improved my riding and crazy fun. Enjoy and be safe!

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Welcome to the club. You're going to get a lot of advice from member here. Me included. You might be tempted to push back against it, saying 'I'm a good rider, I make good decisions, etc. etc.' Before you do, take a second. Can you learn anything from that advice? Probably. It's often best to just listen and take what you can from someone's comments. That's maturity.

If you're not wearing gear, I suggest you make that a priority. You mentioned your buddy has 3 screws in his foot from a low speed crash. I, too, lost the front end at low speed once. In my case, I was wearing race boots and leathers (top and bottom) and it was nothing more than dust off and ride home. Without those boots, it could have been a broken ankle for me. My recommendation is Helmet with pinlock, gloves with durable palm and hard knuckle protection, armored jacket (I prefer leather but textile is protective also), armored pants (you can do armored denim, but it's not cheaper than leathers), and boots with rigid over the ankle protection.

That said, I also agree you really should look into the basic rider class (MSF). You can learn to move the bike around, but the class teaches you to understand what the bike is doing. It will help you keep control in situations where everything isn't perfect. You can learn to see cars. The class will give you a HUGE leap forward in understanding what to watch for, how to look, where to look, and how to protect yourself. This si by far the best investment you can make in your riding future.

If you want to be on the bike and on the boards for years to come, it's best to do whatever you can to make sure you're actually still around for years to come.

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Never heard that one before, but I have to agree. I couldn't get through that mess of a post. I was not the best at sentence structure when I graduated from high school so I understand. Good freaking luck on the street. I know that my daughters were not the best drivers when they received their drivers licenses so BE CAREFUL young buck.
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Yes, please go take the MSF course before you get back on that bike. You probably don't even really know how to steer a motorcycle correctly (hint: when you are going very slow, it can be intuitive, but at moderate to higher speeds, it's backwards from what you think it would be).

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Congrats on generating $3500 @ 17 years old. Can I presume you have an operator's license? Insurance? Have you considered adding any sort of frame and chassis protection so your investment survives your learning process? As you stated you are lacking in gear.... what are you doing about that? There are a number of sites that sell left over equipment/last season's styles for massive discounts. Right now, it's the right time to be buying summer gear. Clearances are substantial.
Thanks for your time, leaving a detailed response. I have taken the MSF course i'm just waiting for my certificate to be mailed in before I proceed to get my m1 permit. Insurance should be no more than 70-100$ for just the minimum, however I haven't ridden in the past 2 weeks due to weather conditions so insurance is on a hold as well. I also plan on purchasing a go pro (Offbrand) just for insurance and safety purposes. I also spent 600$ in protective gear. I do still wear regular jeans and high top shoes. I do have a Dainese winter mesh jacket with padding. Also 'long' gloves that cover the wrist and a bit up the arm. Thermal mask and gloves for winter riding.

Thanks for the tip about the rear shock. I do have all the sliders and I just put together my venom bike lifts.

Thanks for welcoming me guys.
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Thanks for your time, leaving a detailed response. I have taken the MSF course i'm just waiting for my certificate to be mailed in before I proceed to get my m1 permit. Insurance should be no more than 70-100$ for just the minimum, however I haven't ridden in the past 2 weeks due to weather conditions so insurance is on a hold as well. I also plan on purchasing a go pro (Offbrand) just for insurance and safety purposes. I also spent 600$ in protective gear. I do still wear regular jeans and high top shoes. I do have a Dainese winter mesh jacket with padding. Also 'long' gloves that cover the wrist and a bit up the arm. Thermal mask and gloves for winter riding.

Thanks for the tip about the rear shock. I do have all the sliders and I just put together my venom bike lifts.

Thanks for welcoming me guys.
Sounds like you're off to a good start. I am pretty sure I would not have survived if I got a bike when I was that age. I drove very aggressively, and I thought I knew a lot. Well, I did know a lot, and had some skill, but my risk assessment was bad. Looking back, I can now see that my accepted level of risk v what it would cost me if that small percentage bad thing happened was not a good bet. That's experience. If you can, try to be more careful than you think you need to be.

That said, riding a motorcycle is literally the best. Welcome to the club!

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Alex,

it sounds like you have your head on pretty straight so far. Good to hear about the training, and the gear. Those are 2 things you can never have enough of.

Where are you working now that you have finished high school?

Do you plan on doing more with school?
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