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post #31 of 81 Old 03-07-2017, 12:26 PM
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Fahrt for short sounds much cooler though.
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I know my limits and I will not being doing any stunts

I put this up every year.


New riders tell themselves "I won't use the power, I can control myself"

Then the bike goes

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I put this up every year.


New riders tell themselves "I won't use the power, I can control myself"

Then the bike goes

I know right??! I like hearing newbies say that. Or when they say "I've been riding a few months now on my 250/300 and really just outgrew the bike and I NEED something bigger!".....bitch please. I know people that would run circles on a 300 around you on ANY bike you choose lol.

If I had a dollar for every person on a 600-1000 that I've passed on my little 500 or my friends' ninja 300s at the track, I could almost buy another bike right now! lol

I was that overly confident dummy years ago too so I know from personal experience unfortunately. Get a 600..."I'll be responsible, will be used mostly for commuting to school"....1 week later, BRAAAAAAAPP....140 mph on a highway in town. Several months later...."oh I'm gonna sell it cuz I really want a big bike"...got a new 160 hp bike...BRAAAAAP...2 days later, crash!! A few weeks later, go to the track for the first time ever on my newly fixed 160 hp bike....made it in the top 5 slowest guys there. Got passed by almost everyone including people on much less powerful bikes.

Lesson learned...humility acquired lol
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post #34 of 81 Old 03-08-2017, 07:44 AM Thread Starter
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I know right??! I like hearing newbies say that. Or when they say "I've been riding a few months now on my 250/300 and really just outgrew the bike and I NEED something bigger!".....bitch please. I know people that would run circles on a 300 around you on ANY bike you choose lol.

If I had a dollar for every person on a 600-1000 that I've passed on my little 500 or my friends' ninja 300s at the track, I could almost buy another bike right now! lol

I am still a new rider. I simply started this thread because I wanted to start my long research about bigger bikes. I have yet to sit on any and I am thinking it will be about a year until I do get around to making the purchase. I pretty much am set on the zx6r for now but I will have to see what feels better after I have test ridden different bikes.

I am sure you could run laps around me at the track as well. Even if you gave me a H2 or other performance liter bike because i would definitely not feel comfortable or confident on it.

As far as the commute to school. Since I graduated about 6 years ago from college I would not be needing it for that purpose. I would do the occasional to work but my job often requires me to move equipment between sites so I need my car 90% of the time. The bike would be recreational use for me and group rides with friends.

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I was that overly confident dummy years ago too so I know from personal experience unfortunately. Get a 600..."I'll be responsible, will be used mostly for commuting to school"....1 week later, BRAAAAAAAPP....140 mph on a highway in town. Several months later...."oh I'm gonna sell it cuz I really want a big bike"...got a new 160 hp bike...BRAAAAAP...2 days later, crash!! A few weeks later, go to the track for the first time ever on my newly fixed 160 hp bike....made it in the top 5 slowest guys there. Got passed by almost everyone including people on much less powerful bikes.

Lesson learned...humility acquired lol
Is it naive that I already want a bigger bike? Absolutely, is it also my body, my money and my choice? Again absolutely. With that being said I am still in the research and understanding phase. It took me 2 years before I bought my ninja 300 and the only reason I got it when I did was the dealer had it for sale for $3200 brand new and it was a 2014 model. I got it for $3600 cash out the door. I am looking to snag a similar deal on a few years older model that is very low mileage from a dealer looking to dump inventory.

Just remember everyone rides differently and I do not plan on throwing away thousands of $$. Will I give it the occasional rip? Sure, who doesn't? Everyone rides fast at one point or another either on the track or on the street. It is why we all ride motorcycles, for the sweet air rushing adrenaline. Do most of us also have an instinct on when not to and to not over do it? Yes, that is the reason for taking Advanced riding classes, and learning more at track schools.
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I didn't get my panties in a bunch, I merely stated if you are determined to get a Kawasaki you will do that...but eh whatever keyboard warrior...continue!

As a newish rider, I'd urge you to put brand preferences aside. Ride things that may even appear ugly and settle on a bike that makes sense to *YOU* (not others).
Thank you fellow keyboard warrior! Yes I do plan on sitting on and riding plenty of different bikes to see what feels better for me. TBH they did seem pretty bunched .
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Fahrt for short sounds much cooler though.
It sounds exactly as you would think I still prefer Vohrt but either one I do not mind
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Is it naive that I already want a bigger bike? Absolutely, is it also my body, my money and my choice? Again absolutely. With that being said I am still in the research and understanding phase. It took me 2 years before I bought my ninja 300 and the only reason I got it when I did was the dealer had it for sale for $3200 brand new and it was a 2014 model. I got it for $3600 cash out the door. I am looking to snag a similar deal on a few years older model that is very low mileage from a dealer looking to dump inventory.

Just remember everyone rides differently and I do not plan on throwing away thousands of $$. Will I give it the occasional rip? Sure, who doesn't? Everyone rides fast at one point or another either on the track or on the street. It is why we all ride motorcycles, for the sweet air rushing adrenaline. Do most of us also have an instinct on when not to and to not over do it? Yes, that is the reason for taking Advanced riding classes, and learning more at track schools.
I agree, don't get me wrong, I think everyone should use their money/time in whatever way they want. I just had to bring up the common terms we see being used from newbies all the time. Feel free to buy whatever bike pleases way. If you can buy a 1299 Superleggera, more power to you...but just don't fool yourself that you "need" a bigger bike or that you've "outgrown" what you're currently riding. Those terms are used so much. You should see the CBR500 or R3 forums. Every week there a couple new threads about "outgrowing my bike...blah blah blah", and every person that says that is actually far from really outgrowing the bike. They just think they know it all and they convince themselves that they "need" more.

I got no problem with what you want. If I had a bunch of money laying around I'd buy another liter bike tomorrow. Do I need it? No. But I want one just for shits and giggles

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Just get an H2

/thread.

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Actually, you might outgrow that one too fast. Go for the H2R just to be on the safe side.

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tl;dr

We don't want to see you dead. But we all have fun.

I went out last weekend and passed on a solid yellow. I don't even feel bad about it. Yet I still harp on gear, safety, learning to control your machine, etc.

Most crashes are single-vehicle, meaning the rider lost control or put the machine in a place it couldn't recover from (more likely the rider wouldn't allow the machine to recover).

It sounds like you've got the ability to reason through things, and maybe won't lane-split at 90mph your first week out. Be cool, and work on learning the machine, and hopefully we all live.



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Just get an H2

/thread.

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Actually, you might outgrow that one too fast. Go for the H2R just to be on the safe side.
Even then I might outgrow it.. better buy the h2r with twin turbo just to be safelaugh
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I agree, don't get me wrong, I think everyone should use their money/time in whatever way they want. I just had to bring up the common terms we see being used from newbies all the time. Feel free to buy whatever bike pleases way. If you can buy a 1299 Superleggera, more power to you...but just don't fool yourself that you "need" a bigger bike or that you've "outgrown" what you're currently riding. Those terms are used so much. You should see the CBR500 or R3 forums. Every week there a couple new threads about "outgrowing my bike...blah blah blah", and every person that says that is actually far from really outgrowing the bike. They just think they know it all and they convince themselves that they "need" more.

I got no problem with what you want. If I had a bunch of money laying around I'd buy another liter bike tomorrow. Do I need it? No. But I want one just for shits and giggles
The supers are some great looking AND sounding bikes! Nah I know I don't "Need it" and I definitely have way more to learn on my current bike, or bikes in general, I just feel I would be comfortable and happy on a 600 series. I am still debating if I am going to trade in for it, sell my 300 first, or just keep the 300.
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tl;dr

We don't want to see you dead. But we all have fun.

I went out last weekend and passed on a solid yellow. I don't even feel bad about it. Yet I still harp on gear, safety, learning to control your machine, etc.

Most crashes are single-vehicle, meaning the rider lost control or put the machine in a place it couldn't recover from (more likely the rider wouldn't allow the machine to recover).

It sounds like you've got the ability to reason through things, and maybe won't lane-split at 90mph your first week out. Be cool, and work on learning the machine, and hopefully we all live.


Did I miss anything?
I live in PA so lane splitting is actually ILLEGAL. Only real d-bags and asshats do it here. Granted not much a cop can do if he catches you because well.... he can't fit unless he is on a police cruiser (not too common around the area I live) Only time I even think about passing on a yellow would be some dude going 10-15 under the speed limit. I have had other dudes on bikes pass my group over a double yellow so they can do 80+ down this back road.

Live to ride another day is a Great motto!
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Welcome! Hopefully you go with the obviously good choice

As for the longer rides. My buddies and I ride our bikes down to the outer banks in North Carolina (4 hour ride) every year. All of us are pretty good the whole ride.


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Welcome! Hopefully you go with the obviously good choice

As for the longer rides. My buddies and I ride our bikes down to the outer banks in North Carolina (4 hour ride) every year. All of us are pretty good the whole ride.


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You are the 3rd person to tell me that. Do you have an aftermarket seat or the stock? My ass gets sore on my 300 after about and hour or so of riding.
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You are the 3rd person to tell me that. Do you have an aftermarket seat or the stock? My ass gets sore on my 300 after about and hour or so of riding.


On my rides down I'm on the stock seat. But I just got a Corbin seat a month back so I'll see how that does riding down this April.


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