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post #16 of 22 Old 04-13-2017, 06:41 PM Thread Starter
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Honestly it sounds like you're leaning on the clip-ons if you're getting ANY pain or numbness there. You should be able to do it almost like holding a champagne flute (unless you're grabbing the brake). If you're leaning on the bars, it's harder to turn and makes the bike unable to respond to changes in the surface at lean.
Nah It is not my leaning on the bar because I do not get any pain in my left hand/wrist. I think it is just me getting used to twisting the throttle or something. I know I have thought numerous times while riding about how I am not leaning on the bar.

Also for all the comments about track days I appreciate them but I will never see a track on the bike. Between work full time, school near full time, a wife, a 4 year old, the fact that I am 34 in less than a month, that I really want to get back into Soccer again... Just no time at all to even THINK about track days or the possibility of missing work due to injury and the costs involved in bike maintenance.
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post #17 of 22 Old 04-13-2017, 08:22 PM
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Throttle, look at the motion pro.

On the track, all valid points but the last couple.
You stand a much larger chance of not only getting hurt but killed on the street.
Tracks, don't have the solid objects and most importantly cars to cause sudden stops.
Since your riding the street, gear up and drive like the can't see you, don't care if you die and they are pissed off at YOU because some other prick on a bike was rude to them.

It's not the speed, it is the sudden stops that hurts.

With the kid, school etc you will be broke for many years. Keep up with school so maybe before your my age you could afford to do the track for fun.
In the mean time, it's college for your bike riding. STT offers FREE for first time riders.

Wish you the best with the bike, school and most important. Enjoy your little girl, I've have 2 my self. Man do they grow up quick. Savor the time. Savor the time with her and your wife.
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Throttle, look at the motion pro.

On the track, all valid points but the last couple.
You stand a much larger chance of not only getting hurt but killed on the street.
Tracks, don't have the solid objects and most importantly cars to cause sudden stops.
Since your riding the street, gear up and drive like the can't see you, don't care if you die and they are pissed off at YOU because some other prick on a bike was rude to them.

It's not the speed, it is the sudden stops that hurts.

With the kid, school etc you will be broke for many years. Keep up with school so maybe before your my age you could afford to do the track for fun.
In the mean time, it's college for your bike riding. STT offers FREE for first time riders.

Wish you the best with the bike, school and most important. Enjoy your little girl, I've have 2 my self. Man do they grow up quick. Savor the time. Savor the time with her and your wife.
yeah I have experience in the department of cagers not seeing me. I have been bumped into before by a off duty cop who merged lanes before they were supposed to, I have had people almost Tbone me, me Tbone them.. I have experienced quite a bit back in the day when I used to ride. Two semesters away from my BS degree and the only reason I have the bike now is because I just hired with John Deere and definitely not broke. :-D I am 34 in less than a month and little dude is going to be 4 in June.

I definitely feel like I should have written a lot more about me in my intro post. While I would not say I am super experienced, I am definitely not some naive and squid like 21 year old who has never ridden before. In my previous time of riding, when I did ride.. I rode every day.. I lived in Virginia Beach, traffic there is absolute shit.. I was doing over 5k miles a year I was riding so much, both in commutes to and from work and also 3 hour trips to DC.

I can say I have the experiences with cagers.
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Nah It is not my leaning on the bar because I do not get any pain in my left hand/wrist. I think it is just me getting used to twisting the throttle or something. I know I have thought numerous times while riding about how I am not leaning on the bar...................
You should probably take a look at tweaking the alignment of the levers to the bars, with respect to how you normally sit on the bike.

Getting the angle set properly so you make a natural motion getting to the brake and the clutch is important, the more so due to the SS 'tuck'. If you are having to reach up or down to get to the levers, they are not set correctly.

Should feel like you are shaking some ones' hand. Just a natural extension of your fingers over the lever.

The other area you may be having some minor issue with, is the angle at which you are putting your hands on the grips. The clip-ons have a specific down angle, and amount of 'sweep'. The down angle is not adjustable with the OEM clip-ons, the 'sweep' may be.

If you can easily flap your elbows and can ride the bike with just the palms of your hands on top of the bars.... odds are good you have the ergos close to right.

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You should probably take a look at tweaking the alignment of the levers to the bars, with respect to how you normally sit on the bike.

Getting the angle set properly so you make a natural motion getting to the brake and the clutch is important, the more so due to the SS 'tuck'. If you are having to reach up or down to get to the levers, they are not set correctly.

Should feel like you are shaking some ones' hand. Just a natural extension of your fingers over the lever.

The other area you may be having some minor issue with, is the angle at which you are putting your hands on the grips. The clip-ons have a specific down angle, and amount of 'sweep'. The down angle is not adjustable with the OEM clip-ons, the 'sweep' may be.

If you can easily flap your elbows and can ride the bike with just the palms of your hands on top of the bars.... odds are good you have the ergos close to right.
Awesome thanks! I will take a look at this later today weather permitting.
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Another point to make with riding position..... (sorry if you have already figured this out).... it is very important to ride the bike with your feet set properly. The balls of your feet on the pegs, not the arches of your feet. This will elevate your knee, and allow it to grip the tank much more readily. When you squeeze the tank with your knees, you 'unload' your arms.

Locking into the tank with your lower body stabilizes how everything else works. Much less effort involved, once you get that sorted out. This is much easier when you have knee armor to expand the contact to the tank.

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Another point to make with riding position..... (sorry if you have already figured this out).... it is very important to ride the bike with your feet set properly. The balls of your feet on the pegs, not the arches of your feet. This will elevate your knee, and allow it to grip the tank much more readily. When you squeeze the tank with your knees, you 'unload' your arms.

Locking into the tank with your lower body stabilizes how everything else works. Much less effort involved, once you get that sorted out. This is much easier when you have knee armor to expand the contact to the tank.
I have still been working on figuring that out. I have tank pads which has been nice, never had those before. I am going to try the balls of my feet though. I need to get some time where I can take a longer than 5 minute ride so that I can really figure things out. Stupid rain. haha.
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