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post #1 of 13 Old 04-25-2017, 01:38 PM Thread Starter
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Looking for thoughts on newer ZX6RR

Been reading posts and riding my 2003 ZX6RR on the track for about 5 years.

I'm thinking of selling and getting a new one, maybe 2010 and up. Anyone have recommendations about how much newer I should go or the differences, advantages?
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'09 and '13 were where the main changes happened. If I imagine you'll get mixed opinions about which is better. Each have advantages. For example, '09 is a 599 so runs in more 600 races and has a damper but '13 is a 636 so more power but not always race eligible, no damper, slipper clutch, some base electronics.

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If you can find a good deal on a 2013 or newer you will get decent stock suspension, a nice slip and grip clutch, and traction control as well as excellent stock brakes. Also the 2013 and up gives you more mid range since they achieved the 636 displacement by increasing the stroke rather than the bore. Does not sound like much but it makes a real difference for street riding......puts a little more grunt right where you need it when you are not going to be in the upper rpm range so often.

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For the track, I think 2009 - 2012 is the better option. FYI, this model also has a slipper clutch.

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I thought the handling of a newer one would be better.
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For the track, I think 2009 - 2012 is the better option. FYI, this model also has a slipper clutch.


I wasn't clear in my post. Both have the slipper clutch but only one works. I had two '09's and in both cases the slip was poor. On my '16 it is improved beyond words.


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Been racing a 09+ since 2010 and NEVER had an issue with the slipper clutch... and I can't even blip throttle properly so I hardly ever try. Rode the 13+ 636 a few times on track and to me the clutch was the same. Engine has A LOT less top end but definitely more mid range. But then again, neither bike was stock so hard to say. Both have full exhaust + filter + fuel management and etc. The 13+ even had the "09-12 v.stacks mod", apparently it helps with the lack of top end owner told me.

I'd still stick with the 09-12 for track duties though (and I have). Also, yes... the 09-12 comes with damper but it's pretty lame in stock form and you need to spend a little to get it work properly so it's not all roses. Stock forks are quite good till you're at the pointy end of the competition and then you'll need cartridges but it's still a lot better than just about every stock set of forks I'd tried before. Can't compare with the 13+ as it had Ohlins cartridges when I rode it.
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I thought the handling of a newer one would be better.
They softened up the suspension quite a bit on the 2013+ models for "better" street riding. The 2009 - 2012 are already pretty well set up for track riding.

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Been racing a 09+ since 2010 and NEVER had an issue with the slipper clutch... and I can't even blip throttle properly so I hardly ever try. Rode the 13+ 636 a few times on track and to me the clutch was the same. Engine has A LOT less top end but definitely more mid range. But then again, neither bike was stock so hard to say. Both have full exhaust + filter + fuel management and etc. The 13+ even had the "09-12 v.stacks mod", apparently it helps with the lack of top end owner told me.

I'd still stick with the 09-12 for track duties though (and I have). Also, yes... the 09-12 comes with damper but it's pretty lame in stock form and you need to spend a little to get it work properly so it's not all roses. Stock forks are quite good till you're at the pointy end of the competition and then you'll need cartridges but it's still a lot better than just about every stock set of forks I'd tried before. Can't compare with the 13+ as it had Ohlins cartridges when I rode it.
That is due to how they accomplished the 636cc in the 09-12 vs 13+/. in 09-12 they actually had a larger bore size. for the 13+ they increased the stroke instead which is how they get better mid range.
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I thought the handling of a newer one would be better.
Have you gotten your suspension tuned to your weight? That would likely make MUCH more difference than a new bike...

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That is due to how they accomplished the 636cc in the 09-12 vs 13+/. in 09-12 they actually had a larger bore size. for the 13+ they increased the stroke instead which is how they get better mid range.

I think you may be confused...I don't think the 09-12 is a 636

Please feel free to provide evidence to the contrary, but I was under the impression that 13 was a reintroduction of 636 since 07-12 had all been 599. Yes or no?

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Have you gotten your suspension tuned to your weight? That would likely make MUCH more difference than a new bike...




I think you may be confused...I don't think the 09-12 is a 636

Please feel free to provide evidence to the contrary, but I was under the impression that 13 was a reintroduction of 636 since 07-12 had all been 599. Yes or no?
You are correct. I got confuzzled. The previous 636 so 04-06 would have been a bigger bore, whereas the new models 13+ have a larger stroke. You are correct on the 599. Also I think the ZX6RR's are still 599 cc.
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