Leg off peg before turning?This is a discussion on Leg off peg before turning? within the Racing forums, part of the ZX6R Forum category; So why do the guys in some of the upper echelon of racing put their leg out like they are MX'ing? The video below shows ...
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10-27-2011, 08:11 PM
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#1 | | Superbike Champion
Joined: Jul 2011 From: MD Posts: 1,066 I Ride: a Schwinn | Leg off peg before turning?
So why do the guys in some of the upper echelon of racing put their leg out like they are MX'ing? The video below shows what I'm talking about, heading into turn 1 you see multiple people put their inside leg out before heading in, they bring it up before getting into it.
I watched "Faster" earlier today and some guys eluded to using body positioning to get the bike to turn at fast speeds but I'm confused where the foot thing comes in at  | 
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10-27-2011, 08:14 PM
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#2 | | Post Master General
Joined: Sep 2010 From: VA Posts: 8,749 I Ride: 2009 GREEN ZX6R |
i think it has to do with countering skidding
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10-27-2011, 08:15 PM
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#3 | | Post Master General
Joined: Sep 2010 From: VA Posts: 8,749 I Ride: 2009 GREEN ZX6R |
watch 1:26
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10-27-2011, 08:33 PM
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#4 | | World Superbike Racer
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10-27-2011, 08:51 PM
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#5 | | World Superbike Champion
Joined: Dec 2010 From: Santa Maria, ca Posts: 2,419 I Ride: 2007 ZX-6R | Quote:
Originally Posted by hellonearth  | nice find
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10-27-2011, 10:50 PM
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#6 | | Superbike Champion
Joined: Jul 2011 From: MD Posts: 1,066 I Ride: a Schwinn |
Good find. I still wonder though, it has to have a physical meaning behind it, all these people can't be throwing legs out "just because." And if they are, thats one big placebo prescription.
But that article did rise mention to gyroscopic effects at the high speeds racers see coming into the corners. I wonder if the leg out is enough shift their moment of inertias that it actually does translate into an easier to turn-in bike. We probably wouldn't notice anything by trying it on the street since the effect is squarely related to velocity (in the simple case at least).
Would definitely be interesting to research and model....
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10-27-2011, 10:54 PM
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#7 | | Post Master General
Joined: Sep 2010 From: VA Posts: 8,749 I Ride: 2009 GREEN ZX6R |
professor oKayH over here  | |
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10-27-2011, 11:04 PM
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#8 | | Superbike Champion
Joined: Jul 2011 From: MD Posts: 1,066 I Ride: a Schwinn |
LOL, i get (wanna-be) scholarly late at night and (heavily) under the influence  | |
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10-27-2011, 11:05 PM
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#9 | | Post Master General
Joined: Jul 2007 From: melbourne Posts: 10,221 I Ride: 1998 zx6r, 1999 sv650 |
looks cool to tho  | 
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10-27-2011, 11:24 PM
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#10 | | Squid
Joined: Jan 2008 From: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 84 I Ride: 2009 ZX6R Race bike | Quote:
Originally Posted by oKayH So why do the guys in some of the upper echelon of racing put their leg out like they are MX'ing? The video below shows what I'm talking about, heading into turn 1 you see multiple people put their inside leg out before heading in, they bring it up before getting into it.
I watched "Faster" earlier today and some guys eluded to using body positioning to get the bike to turn at fast speeds but I'm confused where the foot thing comes in at | I've only used it a couple of times and it was only when I went into the corner really hot...really late braking and the bike was pretty ugly. I didn't think about doing it I just instinctively stuck it out and what do you know...it helps stabilized the bike just before I started tipping in. have no idea how/why but it seemed to work.  | |
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10-27-2011, 11:28 PM
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#11 | | Squid
Joined: Jan 2008 From: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 84 I Ride: 2009 ZX6R Race bike | Quote:
Originally Posted by hellonearth | haha...classic, I just read this and what do you know...its what I just said in my previous post almost verbatim! Weird!?  | |
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10-27-2011, 11:32 PM
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#12 | | Post Master General
Joined: Sep 2010 From: VA Posts: 8,749 I Ride: 2009 GREEN ZX6R |
so when they stick their right leg out, they're only using the front brake and downshifting? good example is 2:17
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10-28-2011, 12:14 AM
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#13 | | Squid
Joined: Jan 2008 From: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 84 I Ride: 2009 ZX6R Race bike | Quote:
Originally Posted by givuhcky22 so when they stick their right leg out, they're only using the front brake and downshifting? good example is 2:17 | Most racers ONLY use the front brake ever. I never touch the back brake at all when racing...it doesn't do F$%k all when your rear wheel is in the air.
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10-28-2011, 12:26 AM
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#14 | | World Superbike Racer
Joined: Oct 2011 From: Orange County Posts: 1,227 I Ride: 2006 ZX636r |
I remember reading that they do it to block off the rider behind from passing  | |
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10-28-2011, 12:26 AM
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#15 | | Team Green
Joined: Aug 2009 From: Aberdeenshire Posts: 191 I Ride: By the seat of my pants! |
And any that do its a thumb brake anyway and not a pedal at your right foot
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