Racing fuel?This is a discussion on Racing fuel? within the Racing forums, part of the ZX6R Forum category; i had pc3 pipe work valocity stacks air filter air mod removed flys ...steady on girls and in my op it defo hauled ass on ...
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12-05-2011, 12:45 PM
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#16 | | World Superbike Racer
Joined: Jan 2010 From: milton keynes uk Posts: 1,405 I Ride: b2h 636 |
i had pc3 pipe work valocity stacks air filter air mod removed flys ...steady on girls and in my op it defo hauled ass on higher octane i think bp dirty word to u fellas across the water do 105 and i used it prob all in me head but felt better and crisper plus i never poodled about..flat out even on me drive.so stick it in and see how ya go nothing to loose except monie. and may be ur licence.  | 
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12-05-2011, 12:55 PM
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#17 | | Team Green
Joined: Sep 2011 From: La Grange, NC Posts: 217 I Ride: 2007 Black ZX6R |
Is that the gas station on William Street? I've been wondering about this too. What about running the 93/110 mix like COOLJ suggested. I've read about ppl running pump/race mix and adding a little benzene which causes the higher octane fuel to ionize and burn better. Any thoughts Track Guys?
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12-05-2011, 02:50 PM
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#18 | | Superbike Champion
Joined: Sep 2010 From: St. Louis/Columbia Posts: 866 I Ride: '05 636 (Sold) | Quote:
Originally Posted by 1NastyZ  It wont help you bud.
It isnt a performance enhancer on its own, or even with normal mods.... It's a way to maximize OTHER enhancements | this.
higher octane fuel allows you to increase timing without the threat of knock. putting the fuel in your bike without it being tuned is just a waste of money.
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12-05-2011, 03:03 PM
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#19 | | Squid
Joined: Nov 2011 From: Central PA Posts: 91 I Ride: 2007 ZX6r | Quote:
Originally Posted by mark72 mine will only run happy and be throttle happy on 97 octane
which is sold over here at every pump station | 95/98 RON in Europe are equivalent to 91/93 (RON + MON)/2 here in the states
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12-05-2011, 10:18 PM
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#20 | | Team Green
Joined: Nov 2011 From: Goldsboro NC, ORIGINALLY FRM YAY AREA CA Posts: 167 I Ride: 2009 ZX6R | Quote:
Originally Posted by moody729 Is that the gas station on William Street? I've been wondering about this too. What about running the 93/110 mix like COOLJ suggested. I've read about ppl running pump/race mix and adding a little benzene which causes the higher octane fuel to ionize and burn better. Any thoughts Track Guys? | yeah its the one on williams st. pretty legit but i need to figure out what to do to my motor to make use of the race fuel...anyone? i just filled up for the hell of it it has a 50/50 mix in it right now exahust smells a little different and response is a little smoother(might just be in my head though) but other then that i dont feel much might have to get it on a dyno and see some solid numbers as to whether it helps or hinders.
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12-07-2011, 11:34 AM
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#21 | | Team Green
Joined: Sep 2011 From: Duanesburg, NY. Palm Bay, FL (Stationed in Germany) Posts: 217 I Ride: 2011 ZX-6R | Quote:
Originally Posted by mark72 mine will only run happy and be throttle happy on 97 octane
which is sold over here at every pump station | I'm here in Germany, and i can't read German, so i just get the "super plus" where ever i decide to stop.
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12-08-2011, 06:44 PM
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#22 | | Squid
Joined: Nov 2011 From: colorado Posts: 30 | Quote:
Originally Posted by LLCOOLJ yeah its the one on williams st. pretty legit but i need to figure out what to do to my motor to make use of the race fuel...anyone? i just filled up for the hell of it it has a 50/50 mix in it right now exahust smells a little different and response is a little smoother(might just be in my head though) but other then that i dont feel much might have to get it on a dyno and see some solid numbers as to whether it helps or hinders. | like someone said before it will allow more timing to get more power but you will need a tune. if you were to build the motor with high compression you could gain a lot of power with race fuel and some good tuning.
higher octane fuels are more resistant to combusting. compressing air makes it hot so high compression motors need higher octane fuels so the air temp alone doesnt ignite the fuel mixture before ignition (knock). turbos/superchargers are air compressors so they superheat air which is why they require higher octane fuels as well.
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12-08-2011, 09:25 PM
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#23 | | Team Green
Joined: Jul 2011 From: Charleston Posts: 197 I Ride: Blue 2009 ZX6R |
Actually "Race Fuel" only works if your street racing. You need to have at least a 6 inch spoiler, minimum 17 manufacturing endorsements recognizable by various decals placed in random for others to know that you have mods. ONLY WORKS ON 4-cylinder japanese sedans. The pumps will only give you race fuel if it hears your exhaust from 3 blocks away.
thought you guys knew this.....
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12-08-2011, 10:04 PM
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#24 | | Team Green
Joined: Nov 2011 From: Goldsboro NC, ORIGINALLY FRM YAY AREA CA Posts: 167 I Ride: 2009 ZX6R | Quote:
Originally Posted by mounty50 Actually "Race Fuel" only works if your street racing. You need to have at least a 6 inch spoiler, minimum 17 manufacturing endorsements recognizable by various decals placed in random for others to know that you have mods. ONLY WORKS ON 4-cylinder japanese sedans. The pumps will only give you race fuel if it hears your exhaust from 3 blocks away.
thought you guys knew this..... |  haha +1
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12-08-2011, 10:12 PM
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#25 | | MotoGP Champion
Joined: May 2011 From: Bakerspatch Posts: 3,277 I Ride: '09 ZX6R | | |
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12-08-2011, 10:19 PM
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#26 | | Team Green
Joined: May 2009 From: Cherry Valley Ca. Posts: 132 I Ride: 06 ZX6R 636 | Quote:
Originally Posted by volcom415 You need higher compression to run that fuel efficiently...it will actually make less power even with a tune running on a stock motor.
I would only run it if you have decked the head and are running a kit head gasket. There is no oxygen in that fuel so its is just a waste of money...the only benefit to that fuel is the lead which is a little softer on the motor. | AGREED! Another thing.... Be careful cause in some states it is illegal to pull up to a pump and fill up with race gas. Check with your local city ordinances cause that fuel is sold for "Off road use only". A friend of mine here in California was ticketed by CHP for that and it cost him $350.00.
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12-15-2011, 10:17 AM
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#27 | | Team Green
Joined: Sep 2010 From: DFW Posts: 230 I Ride: 2011 ZX-10r |
MR-12 is the way to go on our bikes. Get a thin head gasket and race cams + tune.
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