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TC636 · 02-02-2012, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ibAdam

Here is the deal. You guys are arguing over something that is VERY subjective. Way too many variables in the real world to arguing over theories. If you want a little bit of bragging rights then just tell him to look at the 1/4 mile times. Your ZX6R beat his GSXR by 0.42 of a second which is only 3.8% of a difference off the total time.

It may be only 0.42 difference in time. But the kawi is 7.5 mph faster.
In my opinion, that's alot in just 1/4 mi.

jessespring · 02-02-2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sickeagle636

How come the 05s are faster then the 06s

Because 05 came with Magma Red!!

ZX6RRECTION · 02-02-2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by whocanitBnow

wow, I'd thought the gixxer would be faster than that 1/4 mile.

Lol yeah me too..

Fuck dem gixxies

sickeagle636 · 02-02-2012, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jessespring

Because 05 came with Magma Red!!

This is true... Red does go faster, sorry, I completely forgot

jessespring · 02-02-2012, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sickeagle636

This is true... Red does go faster, sorry, I completely forgot

Well its a proven fact... thats why the cops watch out for them more....

2slo4u · 02-03-2012, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MonsterZX

Way to go to the bike not being compared. these stats were taken from a magazine. each bike was featured in an issue assuming the 98 was closer to its time of being manufactured. but 98 zx9 450 at best for wet weight. Not saying I 100% agree with all the stats listed but its to give and Idea...

I know what bikes are being compared but the fact they ran a 9.99 on a bone stock 125whp bike even if it was 380lbs wet brings there testing method into question. For example, in the above rag it states they ran a 9.99 on a 98 zx9 but only pulled a 10.17 on a zx12 arguable one of the fastest production bikes ever made.

Did you notice the 05 zx6r also put almost 7mph of trap speed on the 09 GSXR600 granted the zx might have a little more power(think more weight also) so that’s just not going to happen period. You might have also noticed the difference between the ETand trap speed of the 05 zx6r and the 05 zx12 ET and trap speeds are closer than the difference between the 05 zx6r and the 09 GSXR600.

WTF is that about LOL. I think it was Sport Rider or some other rag that also stated my stock 08 CBR1000 ran a 9.68 @ 138 I love the bike but that’s just ignorant I don’t care who you put on the bike. I’ am not sure about using a magazine as a starting point for determining a bikes performance.

tgold · 02-03-2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 2slo4u

I know what bikes are being compared but the fact they ran a 9.99 on a bone stock 125whp bike even if it was 380lbs wet brings there testing method into question. For example, in the above rag it states they ran a 9.99 on a 98 zx9 but only pulled a 10.17 on a zx12 arguable one of the fastest production bikes ever made.

Did you notice the 05 zx6r also put almost 7mph of trap speed on the 09 GSXR600 granted the zx might have a little more power(think more weight also) so that’s just not going to happen period. You might have also noticed the difference between the ETand trap speed of the 05 zx6r and the 05 zx12 ET and trap speeds are closer than the difference between the 05 zx6r and the 09 GSXR600.

WTF is that about LOL. I think it was Sport Rider or some other rag that also stated my stock 08 CBR1000 ran a 9.68 @ 138 I love the bike but that’s just ignorant I don’t care who you put on the bike. I’ am not sure about using a magazine as a starting point for determining a bikes performance.

Fastest and quickest are two different things. Fastest is top speed. Quickest is the time it takes to go a defined distance. No one is hitting top speed on these bikes in a 1/4 mile.

Much of the 1/4 mile time difference has to do with how difficult the bike is to launch and shift. I used to have a 45hp 400 Bandit that I could get off the line very quickly because there was no frickin' way I could loop that thing. I would kill guys with my 60ft times..... but after that, it was all over

MonsterZX · 02-03-2012, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 2slo4u

I know what bikes are being compared but the fact they ran a 9.99 on a bone stock 125whp bike even if it was 380lbs wet brings there testing method into question. For example, in the above rag it states they ran a 9.99 on a 98 zx9 but only pulled a 10.17 on a zx12 arguable one of the fastest production bikes ever made.

Did you notice the 05 zx6r also put almost 7mph of trap speed on the 09 GSXR600 granted the zx might have a little more power(think more weight also) so that’s just not going to happen period. You might have also noticed the difference between the ETand trap speed of the 05 zx6r and the 05 zx12 ET and trap speeds are closer than the difference between the 05 zx6r and the 09 GSXR600.

WTF is that about LOL. I think it was Sport Rider or some other rag that also stated my stock 08 CBR1000 ran a 9.68 @ 138 I love the bike but that’s just ignorant I don’t care who you put on the bike. I’ am not sure about using a magazine as a starting point for determining a bikes performance.

I was simply putting up the sheet that compared them, Honestly Id say the magazine is about as creditable as you. I was just putting some info out there which obviously helped give people something to go off of and decided these are inaccurate. I wasn't using the magazine to "determine" a bikes performance. I was just providing some info. No where is it stated these are the golden numbers for any of these bikes. Its the numbers they have from there results. You will never get the same results with any bike. race to race, rider to rider. To many things factor into each of these. Conditions, bikes maintenance. everything counts when it comes down to if we want to get down to the nitty gritty then yea these sheets are pointless. It was just to give a visual for people.

imadude1134 · 02-03-2012, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MonsterZX

I was simply putting up the sheet that compared them, Honestly Id say the magazine is about as creditable as you. I was just putting some info out there which obviously helped give people something to go off of and decided these are inaccurate. I wasn't using the magazine to "determine" a bikes performance. I was just providing some info. No where is it stated these are the golden numbers for any of these bikes. Its the numbers they have from there results. You will never get the same results with any bike. race to race, rider to rider. To many things factor into each of these. Conditions, bikes maintenance. everything counts when it comes down to if we want to get down to the nitty gritty then yea these sheets are pointless. It was just to give a visual for people.

Its more like a baseline or a jumping off point than golden... WAAAAAYYY too many variables for ANYTHING to be golden

Like I've always said, there's more exceptions than rules

MonsterZX · 02-03-2012, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by imadude1134

Its more like a baseline or a jumping off point than golden... WAAAAAYYY too many variables for ANYTHING to be golden

Like I've always said, there's more exceptions than rules

thats my point..

2slo4u · 02-04-2012, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MonsterZX

I was simply putting up the sheet that compared them, Honestly Id say the magazine is about as creditable as you. I was just putting some info out there which obviously helped give people something to go off of and decided these are inaccurate. I wasn't using the magazine to "determine" a bikes performance. I was just providing some info. No where is it stated these are the golden numbers for any of these bikes. Its the numbers they have from there results. You will never get the same results with any bike. race to race, rider to rider. To many things factor into each of these. Conditions, bikes maintenance. everything counts when it comes down to if we want to get down to the nitty gritty then yea these sheets are pointless. It was just to give a visual for people.

Sorry MonsterZX didn't mean push your buttons just pointing out the inconsistencies in rags data so please don't take that personal. I don't think I stated you were full of shit for posting the specs. I did state the magazine specs are full of shit if that’s ok if not I take it all back.

AndyP123 · 02-04-2012, 01:46 PM

Take a look at this vid on youtube, rear facing Go-Pro on my bros K9 GSXR 600, Im on the green 06 636 you can see behind, we are about the same skill level, still in the slow groups at track days (only been riding 12 months). Both bikes are very similar, and dont show much difference with riders of around the same skill level. Both standard except my bro has a slipon. Good bit around 10:15 till 11:00... he says he missed a gear

Cadwell Park with Focused Events 30-9-2011 - YouTube

imadude1134 · 02-06-2012, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyP123

Take a look at this vid on youtube, rear facing Go-Pro on my bros K9 GSXR 600, Im on the green 06 636 you can see behind, we are about the same skill level, still in the slow groups at track days (only been riding 12 months). Both bikes are very similar, and dont show much difference with riders of around the same skill level. Both standard except my bro has a slipon. Good bit around 10:15 till 11:00... he says he missed a gear

Cadwell Park with Focused Events 30-9-2011 - YouTube

I thought on the track they make you tape of the headlights/turn signals, etc...

ibAdam · 02-07-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by imadude1134

I thought on the track they make you tape of the headlights/turn signals, etc...

It depends on the track day sponsor but for the most of them they only require you to tape up glass parts. The headlights for a lot of bikes now days are just plastic and therefore don't shatter. They will however make you tape up your plastic tail light or disconnect it so other riders don't see when you brake. But headlights make no difference as far as off or on.

tgold · 02-07-2012, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ibAdam

It depends on the track day sponsor but for the most of them they only require you to tape up glass parts. The headlights for a lot of bikes now days are just plastic and therefore don't shatter. They will however make you tape up your plastic tail light or disconnect it so other riders don't see when you brake. But headlights make no difference as far as off or on.

They don't shatter quite like glass, but they do shatter. All the trackday orgs that I know of still make you tape up your lights to try and hold all the broken bits together so hopefully someone else doesn't poke a hole in their tire. It's best to unplug the lights because removing the tape that's been baked on all day can be a bear to remove.