Safety wire, still use LocTite too? - ZX6R Forum
View Poll Results: Do you still use LocTite even if you have safety wired the bolt?
Yes 3 17.65%
No 9 52.94%
Depends on what the bolt is securing 5 29.41%
I don't use safety wire 0 0%
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post #1 of 28 Old 12-13-2014, 03:31 PM Thread Starter
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Safety wire, still use LocTite too?

When you guys safety wire things, do you still also use LocTite or you rely on the safety wire?

I just feel that if you don't safety wire everything really tight with no play, the bolt won't spin out, but it can still be loose, wiggling back and forth and that could really suck with bolts like the front caliper mounts.

I don't know, what do you think?
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post #2 of 28 Old 12-13-2014, 03:54 PM
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Better safe than sorry, I locktite everything
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Better safe than sorry, I locktite everything

Even when lock wire is in use ?
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post #4 of 28 Old 12-14-2014, 02:07 AM
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I think it's slightly over the top using loctite on everything.
I would simply refer to the manual. I rarely use loctite, definitely not on front caliper mounting bolts. Never found them loose when taking front wheel off, always tight.
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If the safety wire is done right then you won't get a bolt to move far enough to be loose. So I guess the answer for me is just the wire
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i dont loctite caliper bolts or axles, but I loctite pretty much everything else that I can. Especially on rear sets.

Safety wire should be considered a reactive measure. It doesn't mean you shouldn't loctite the things you would normally loctite or properly torque your bolts.
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Answers seem to be kind of split so far
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I don't use loctite or safety wire on caliper bolts, and in fact according to the manual do not require it (see periodic maintenance chart for list of things that should have thread lock applied). The only things our org requires to be safety wired are the oil fill and drain plug and the oil filter. I usually do not add any thread lock to any existing bolts I remove, only if replacing them with a new bolt. The only exception to that is I always put more thread lock on rear sets and on rear sprocket nuts.

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I've actually seen rear sprocket nuts back out and ping against the swing arm as the rider was coming back into pits. Could have been worse for him
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I refer to the manual. If it had loctite from the OEM assembly line than I use it again.

If I buy aftermarket I'll follow their directions.

If my track day club or race org calls for it to be wired... than I do so.

Otherwise... I torque to specs.

Just for reference... AMA Pro Racing and CCS only require three items to be wired.

Oil fill, Oil drain, Oil Filter.

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I can't think of any bolts that require safety wire that normally require loctite.
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Loctite can be used on everything if you want but just change the amount applied. Any bolt even when brought to proper tourque spec can loosen up from vibration..all it takes is the correct frequency of vibration. Lecture prevents that
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Being in the Navy and working on F-18's, if you safety wire it, there's no need for loctite. If its good enough to go 1,190 mph in the air, its good enough to 140 mph on the ground.
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I would say do what makes you feel safe. If you arnt worrying about if a bolt is going to come loose than you will ride a lot better than worrying if a nut is gonna come off.
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Agree with many here. I never loctite any bolt I safetywire.

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