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180/60 Rear Track Tire?

Hey all, I already looked through the Track tire threads and didn't find that much info regarding a 180/60 tire. Most people seem to go to a 190 but long story short, I'm working with a suspension tuner and he's recommending a 180/60 to raise the rear and that's what I'm interested in.

What tire brands and models carry the 180/60 that you guys have used?

What kind of compound should I look for in track day use? I'm not racing so I don't really need anything too crazy. I'm like lower A group/Upper B group skill level.

Thanks! Track tires are so confusing...
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Pirelli SCs are a 180/60 and its a damn good tire.
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Excuse my ignorance,

What is the actual tire name? Are they the supercorsas?

Because I see all types of stuff.

Supercorsa
Supercorsa V2
Supercorsa SC

All types of differences.
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I think Pirelli is the only one that makes a 180/60. It is a big tire. It's about the same size as a 190/55 from other brands. Most track day guys and racers that run Pirellis on 600 go with the 180/60 rears. I've been running them all season and that's probably all I'm going to run from now on for the zx6r.
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Diablo SBK V2 180/60R17 NHS TL Diablo Superbike SC1 25 $250.00 $269.00
Diablo SBK V2 180/60R17 NHS TL Diablo Superbike SC2 25 $250.00 $269.00


Are these it?

Any feedback on what compound I should get based on my skill level?
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Diablo SBK V2 180/60R17 NHS TL Diablo Superbike SC1 25 $250.00 $269.00
Diablo SBK V2 180/60R17 NHS TL Diablo Superbike SC2 25 $250.00 $269.00


Are these it?

Any feedback on what compound I should get based on my skill level?
Umm...and what might that be? Since I don't know anything about you, I don't know what your skill level is

Also, keep in mind the superbike slicks and the supercorsa SC's are the same tire, except for the supercorsas have grooves in them, but they're the same dimensions, and rubber.

Nowadays they come in 4 compounds which are from soft to hard: SC0, SC1, SC2, SC3. The SC3 just came out this summer. They're meant to last a long time but don't provide as much grip. It really depends on what you want out of the tires and what your skill level is. I use the SC1 and SC2 compounds for the rear. For track days I'm fine with SC2 as I've never really had any issues with it slipping much, but for sprint races I'd go with the SC1.

Temperatures also come into play. The SC2 works well over a wider temperature range than the SC1. Not sure if you've seen this or something similar, but this is from my local Pirelli race tire supplier:

Pirelli Diablo Superbike Slick Race Tire | PRRDSB
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Umm...and what might that be? Since I don't know anything about you, I don't know what your skill level is

Also, keep in mind the superbike slicks and the supercorsa SC's are the same tire, except for the supercorsas have grooves in them, but they're the same dimensions, and rubber.

Nowadays they come in 4 compounds which are from soft to hard: SC0, SC1, SC2, SC3. The SC3 just came out this summer. They're meant to last a long time but don't provide as much grip. It really depends on what you want out of the tires and what your skill level is. I use the SC1 and SC2 compounds for the rear. For track days I'm fine with SC2 as I've never really had any issues with it slipping much, but for sprint races I'd go with the SC1.

Temperatures also come into play. The SC2 works well over a wider temperature range than the SC1. Not sure if you've seen this or something similar, but this is from my local Pirelli race tire supplier:

Pirelli Diablo Superbike Slick Race Tire | PRRDSB
Whoops sorry, mentioned in my OP that I was Upper B/Lower A skills level (A being best)

Really appreciate all of that input, that's exactly all of the information I needed!!!!

Thank you so much!
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Whoops sorry, mentioned in my OP that I was Upper B/Lower A skills level (A being best)

Really appreciate all of that input, that's exactly all of the information I needed!!!!

Thank you so much!
Slap an SC2 on that biatch and ride the shit out of it until it starts sliding on you. Then you'll get a pretty good idea of how long they last and you can go from there.

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Also, keep in mind the superbike slicks and the supercorsa SC's are the same tire, except for the supercorsas have grooves in them, but they're the same dimensions, and rubber.
Just be sure to look at the sidewall to confirm size, I have a set of Superbike slicks that are 180/55, which is the only 180 size slick my distributor carries. The official Pirelli site says that it comes in a 180/60, but I have yet to see them in person. I ended up running the Supercorsa SC in a 180/60 because that was the only Pirelli in that size he carries.

The 180/60 is noticeably taller than the 180/55 and I feel it gives better turn in.
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Just be sure to look at the sidewall to confirm size, I have a set of Superbike slicks that are 180/55, which is the only 180 size slick my distributor carries. The official Pirelli site says that it comes in a 180/60, but I have yet to see them in person. I ended up running the Supercorsa SC in a 180/60 because that was the only Pirelli in that size he carries.

The 180/60 is noticeably taller than the 180/55 and I feel it gives better turn in.
Yeah they make them in 180/55 as well, although according to the link I posted above, that size only comes in the SC2 compound. Seems that the 180/60 is a more common choice as far as race tires go. And yes, they are way bigger in both diameter and width than the 180/55's.

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I am a big fan of Pirelli, and run the Supercorsa SC1 front and rear. Some guys prefer to run the slicks, but so far, there is NO noticeable difference in times between slicks and the Supercorsa (I ran both on similar track conditions)
SC2 will definitely last longer, but takes a few extra laps to build up temperature and grip. SC2 also works bit better in cold (read <15 celsius), as it is less likely to cold tear, definitely should use with tire warmers, and add an extra lap before pushing 100%
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I'm really enjoying the Pirelli Supercorsa SC2 180/60 rear. Done 2 track days on them and the bike tips in great, and gives a lot of confidence in corner exit acceleration as you lift the bike up.

I still have some chicken strips on these 180/60's. After reading the other thread, it's not that uncommon then.
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I run the Superbike slicks in the 180/60 rear. They are great. I've used them on my last 3 bikes. Still working on Geometry stuff with this ZX6r so it helps to have the 180/60 back there to go along with the 8mm spacers I have on the rear shock. FYI you Pirelli guys, they will be slightly altering the side wall to give it a bit more stability when driving out of turns. I don't know if you guys notice the slight wallow from the tire deformation on hard acceleration. Look for a change next year. The SC3 already is made with that technology. Pretty nifty.
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