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post #1 of 21 Old 10-01-2016, 06:36 AM Thread Starter
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11-27-16 cota!!!!

I signed up for Ride Smart's COTA track day after thanksgiving! I'm excited I've been wanting to get to this track for a year.

Who's going to be there?

Do i need to un do my -1 +2 gearing?
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post #2 of 21 Old 10-01-2016, 07:07 AM
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I would guess the -1/+2 will not work well for you there. I have -1 on front and stock rear and I was right on the rev limiter at the end of the front straight at Road America and I'm pretty sure the back straight at COTA is slightly longer (and not up-hill).
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And I agree with sbk. Might wanna go back to stock gearing on that track. Long and fast. You'll want 6th gear to not rap out all the way.

Out of curiosity.... how much does a TD at COTA set a guy back?


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Must've got a discount for end of year. Usually it's $490/day. In july, because of the heat, they discounted it by $100 a day for that event. I really wanted to go then, but I was already committed to a different track that weekend.

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My options for gearing is either to buy a 520 stock size front sprocket and run -0 +2 with my new 520 chain or cut that off and go back with my stock sprockets and put a new master link on my old chain for this trip and get a new one for the new chain so I can go back with it.


I'd rather just get a stock size front if -0 +2 would be good enough. What do you think?
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I signed up for Ride Smart's COTA track day after thanksgiving! I'm excited I've been wanting to get to this track for a year.

Who's going to be there?

Do i need to un do my -1 +2 gearing?
I'm thinking of skipping this one since it's late November. The weather is too hit or miss for me and my cold weather experience earlier this year kind of put a damper on me wanting to go out in potentially cold conditions. Plus, it's Thanksgiving and I don't think I can escape the family thing. (Too many awkward questions might get asked.)

What level are you registering for? I'm just a level 1 puke with RideSmart.

And to be quite honest about your gearing (this is from a level 1 perspective), it depends on what you want to do. Normally I ride a 650 on COTA which I can top out at about 127mph. I get my ass kicked on the back straight by just about everyone but repass on the brakes going in to turn 12. Then I get caught and passed on the front straight and repass on the brakes going in to turn 1 or sometimes on the outside of turn 2. I guess where I'm going with that is you don't necessarily need to change gearing since the corners are plenty technical and you'll have ample opportunity to pass in them where allowed, and also under brakes as lots of people coast up to the corner and you can take advantage of that. Have fun out there, that track is a blast.

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My options for gearing is either to buy a 520 stock size front sprocket and run -0 +2 with my new 520 chain or cut that off and go back with my stock sprockets and put a new master link on my old chain for this trip and get a new one for the new chain so I can go back with it.


I'd rather just get a stock size front if -0 +2 would be good enough. What do you think?
I would go with what's simplest and cheapest if you're only going to run a new configuration for this track. I would either buy a stock front and run 0/+2 or buy a rear and run -1/-1 (assuming there is enough adjustment left). Going with with a larger front will shorten your wheelbase a bit and going with a smaller rear will lengthen it, so see how much adjustment you have left and decide based on that.

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My wheelbase is a little on the long side right now, and the front is about 1/3 the price so I'll probably just get a stock front.
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-1,0 works best there. But if you're not an advanced rider, 0, +2 will be fine. If you're an advanced rider, you'll likely top it out, but not for long. If that's the easiest without having to redo chains, that's what I would do.

CotA's back straight is incredibly long, but it's also coming out of and going into really tight turns.

I'm usually there, but that's too close to my daughter's birthday and thanksgiving, so I'm sitting that one out.
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I'm about to finish up all the last minute details. I'm getting excited!!

Anyone else decide to head that way?
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I'm about to finish up all the last minute details. I'm getting excited!!

Anyone else decide to head that way?
Wish they would've done 2 days not just 1. When you have to drive like 12-13 hours, you better stay for 2 days.

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Some of the guys from Arkansas are going to ride something called the "three sisters" and making 2 days of it. I think it is some good twisty roads.
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Some of the guys from Arkansas are going to ride something called the "three sisters" and making 2 days of it. I think it is some good twisty roads.
That's a great idea. Those are some fun and scenic roads. Hope you have radiator guards...or at least some 'wet-weld' or whatever its called to patch holes.
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It was a success. That was a LOT of track to remember. The first 3 sessions I couldn't really get to the pace I wanted to get to because I wasn't 100% sure what was coming up next... By lunch though I had it memorized enough that I could work on lines and reference points to know where to accelerate etc. It took me too long to get confident and I left a lot on the table with several corners, especially the looooong 16-18 right hander, it was the last couple sessions that I got the line right and I started incrementally building up speed but still not too fast. .

Turns out I probably would have been okay with my -1+2 gearing... I went back with factory front and +2 on the rear and I only got up to 155, that I have seen on video so far, I do remember the shift light on in 6th once but I don't think I had it on video to know how fast that was.

My Q3's did excellent but I was very careful to stand the bike up before I really got on the gas. The track was so long and fast with the lower temps that I never felt like the tires really got hot. I would feel them in the paddock after the sessions and they were much cooler than after a session at barber.

I liked turns 2-9, 19 was the scariest for me closely followed by 10, it's fast and blind. I almost ass packed someone on a Ducati in 10 I came into it i'm guessing 90 ish on the 2nd session and when I crested the hill he was going no more than 30 it seemed like, he had yellow electrical tape on his rear light, with cut edges... I came within a few inches of disaster. Of course I stood the bike up and rode right for his back wheel with a handfull of brakes, I don't know if I could have went around or not but that's SR's for you I guess...

There were a few crashes none too bad that I heard about. The only red flags were between sessions. They run gators on service roads behind the Armco barriers and get the bikes and riders without having to red flag during the session, I'm guessing that the red flags between were just to pick up something that they couldn't get from behind the barriers?

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