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Chicken strip after trackday???

Hey all, just got back from a trackday and I noticed I have a quarter inch chicken strip on my right side. This surprised me. I'm no racer but I run A group skill level, I've never had a chicken strip on a track tire.

Anyway, there are definitely some reasons why this might make sense:

Counterclockwise track, mostly left handers.
First time running a 180/60 rear tire.

HOWEVER, I did notice that my tire alignment may have been SLIGHTLY off judging by the notch marks on the swingarm. I stress the work slight, talking MM or two. I did my own wheel install, and I struggled big time getting the rear wheel on. Still pretty new to changing my own wheels, maybe only 3rd time I've done it

Just wanted to get your guys' opinion, make sure this isn't indicative of a problem or if its just the new tire size.

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I'm rarely all the way to the edge of the tire in most cases. I don't bother much with how much of the tire I'm not using considering I'm typically on the faster side of the spectrum. Being up on the meaty part of the tire is better anyway as long as you're making it through the turn.

I'll see the edge more with 180/55's but when I've run a 200/50 rear tire I'm dragging toes and still not using the whole tire.

That said... I have no strips on my front tires.
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So unless your running WAY off pace I would say great job..

Your doing what I'm still trying to, get my ass, torso and head off the bike more.
Great body position allows the bike to stand up so you can apply more power.

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Lean more. Or not.
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That's normal, don't sweat it. I don't know that I've seen anyone get all the way to the edge on the 180/60 Pirellis. Mine look just like yours, and I run mid-pack A group level pace as well. Better to have that extra bit of margin left and not need it than to constantly be on the edge and risk going over the edge if you happen to lean just slightly more in a turn.
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RedAndBlack what kinda rear stand do you have? If you have a pitbull, Id recommend this for rear tire changes:

Pit Bull Pit Crew Tire Wedge - Sportbike Track Gear

Itll save asspain, dignity, time, colorful language, but more importantly is that it will save your back.

Also, i would recommend takeing pictures of both sides notchesBEFORE you take the axle out
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RedAndBlack what kinda rear stand do you have? If you have a pitbull, Id recommend this for rear tire changes:

Pit Bull Pit Crew Tire Wedge - Sportbike Track Gear

Itll save asspain, dignity, time, colorful language, but more importantly is that it will save your back.

Also, i would recommend takeing pictures of both sides notchesBEFORE you take the axle out
Actually what helps even more and even cheaper, is getting captive spacers. Just ordered a set last week for about $45 or so. The Carrozzeria wheel I had before had captive spacers and it made a world of difference with wheel changes. I kept wondering why people always bitched about doing that on these bikes because for me it was an easy process. Only took me about 30 seconds or so and always got it right on the first try.....until I switched to an OEM wheel that didn't have captive spacers! Talk about a PITA job. Now I totally get it!
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RedAndBlack what kinda rear stand do you have? If you have a pitbull, Id recommend this for rear tire changes:

Pit Bull Pit Crew Tire Wedge - Sportbike Track Gear

Itll save asspain, dignity, time, colorful language, but more importantly is that it will save your back.

Also, i would recommend takeing pictures of both sides notchesBEFORE you take the axle out

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I absolutely hate doing wheel changes because the stupid spacers and brake bracket is always a bitch. Imagine having this and captive spacers. OMG, it would be glorious!
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RedAndBlack what kinda rear stand do you have? If you have a pitbull, Id recommend this for rear tire changes:

Pit Bull Pit Crew Tire Wedge - Sportbike Track Gear

Itll save asspain, dignity, time, colorful language, but more importantly is that it will save your back.

Also, i would recommend takeing pictures of both sides notchesBEFORE you take the axle out
I have a pitbull stand. Was considering buying this. Been looking for one hoping to get used to pay cheaper
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Actually what helps even more and even cheaper, is getting captive spacers. Just ordered a set last week for about $45 or so. The Carrozzeria wheel I had before had captive spacers and it made a world of difference with wheel changes. I kept wondering why people always bitched about doing that on these bikes because for me it was an easy process. Only took me about 30 seconds or so and always got it right on the first try.....until I switched to an OEM wheel that didn't have captive spacers! Talk about a PITA job. Now I totally get it!
So I looked at captive spacers on some websites and I don't get it, what makes them stay in place? They hookin into the swing arm or the attach to the wheels or behind the wheels bearings or something?
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So I looked at captive spacers on some websites and I don't get it, what makes them stay in place? They hookin into the swing arm or the attach to the wheels or behind the wheels bearings or something?
They have a lip on one side which makes them stick in place better. The lip ends up sitting behind the rubber dust seal. They can come out, because that's how you pull them out if you want to, but it takes a much greater force to pull them out, so during normal installation of the wheel, they won't fall out like the regular spacers do.

Here's a video showing it better, from the place where I got mine:

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Awesome!!!! Thanks for the video!!!
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Your chicken strip is probably from the new tire dimension. i still have 3-4mm chicken strip on mine when both foot, footpeg, knee and elbow touches the ground.
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