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R1 won the BSB championship in 2015 the first year it came out... so it is obviously capable...
I suppose in the end it's mostly about the rider. Josh Brookes won the championship last year. Second Yamaha was down in 21st place at the end. Still a bunch of Kawasakis and BMW's in between with the occasional Honda and Suzuki. Ducati was also way down in 17th, and then this year they won...pretty much because of Shakey Byrne, since the next one was down in like 12th place or so.

I'd still go for an R1 before a ZX10R or S1000RR though just because it sounds and looks cooler IMO

Surprised there are no Aprilias in BSB though.

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I suppose in the end it's mostly about the rider. Josh Brookes won the championship last year. Second Yamaha was down in 21st place at the end. Still a bunch of Kawasakis and BMW's in between with the occasional Honda and Suzuki. Ducati was also way down in 17th, and then this year they won...pretty much because of Shakey Byrne, since the next one was down in like 12th place or so.

I'd still go for an R1 before a ZX10R or S1000RR though just because it sounds and looks cooler IMO

Surprised there are no Aprilias in BSB though.
Oh I agree I just thought it was fair to point that out. I was surprised when Josh Brooks showed up to WSBK on a BMW based on the year he had on the R1, but to be fair the R1 was not developed on WSBK level at that point and it's much easier to just write a big check to Alpha Racing and call it a day.

My thinking with Aprilia is they are just to expensive to run the FW without true factory support.
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WSB Champ Rea Beats MotoGP Pole Time During Jerez Test

A Winter test session at Jerez ended earlier this week with Kawasaki WSB champ Jonathan Rea setting a lap time on his superbike that was quicker than the lap that took pole during the MotoGP race earlier this year. The MotoGP pole was awarded to Valentino Rossi aboard his Yamaha, but Rea eclipsed that lap time during the Jerez test that just ended. Rea was using a WSB qualifying tire when he set the fastest lap.

This was a joint test involving WSB riders and MotoGP riders, although the very top MotoGP riders were missing (Repsol Honda, Factory Ducati and Factory Yamaha). Rea’s lap time is not the fastest-ever lap at the circuit … Jorge Lorenzo holds that record – set on his Yamaha MotoGP bike during the Bridgestone tire era.

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I can't wait for the season to start.

Go Laverty! . . . and Melandri too with his "dirty" riding. Much fun to watch then duke it out and I like them both, but then again I pretty much like every rider in that series.


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I love how these graphs allow you to imagine a hypothetical situation where there would be a WSBK machine and rider vs that of MotoGP. I mean, I have to think of something racing related now that the season is over.








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Price of machines (min): WSBK €300,000 vs MotoGP €2 million.

Reasons why SBK bikes were faster: Testing conditions at Jerez (cold) favored Pirelli when compared to minimum operating temps of Michelin.

Race distance for WSBK is 1/3 less than MotogGP (20 vs 27) accounting for the difference in race simulation pace.

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I can't wait for the season to start.

Go Laverty! . . . and Melandri too with his "dirty" riding. Much fun to watch then duke it out and I like them both, but then again I pretty much like every rider in that series.

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PJ Jacobsen signed to MV for 2017... To be expected as Honda shelved the 600rr and Ten Kate is figuring things out with the new Fireblade.... Wonder where Jules went or was it Lorenzo that left hmmm
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PJ Jacobsen signed to MV for 2017... To be expected as Honda shelved the 600rr and Ten Kate is figuring things out with the new Fireblade.... Wonder where Jules went or was is Lorenzo that left hmmm
Awesome. I was rooting for Jacobsen but it looked like his bike was outclassed. Hopefully he can be more competitive on the MV.

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Awesome. I was rooting for Jacobsen but it looked like his bike was outclassed. Hopefully he can be more competitive on the MV.
I would like to see PJ on a more competitive package but the MV did have reliability issues, can't remember how many engines they blew this year but it was a lot. If they can get that sorted I think PJ will stand a good chance of some wins this year, still not sure he can dethrone KNN54 though...
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Awesome. I was rooting for Jacobsen but it looked like his bike was outclassed. Hopefully he can be more competitive on the MV.
I wouldn't call it outclassed considering the number of CBR's in WSP, and that VDM won on a Honda not too long ago. Same bike then as it is now, and the Kawasaki is the same now as it was then too. But the MV has gotten better and better recently...just not in reliability. I hope to see some R6's next year too.

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I would like to see PJ on a more competitive package but the MV did have reliability issues, can't remember how many engines they blew this year but it was a lot. If they can get that sorted I think PJ will stand a good chance of some wins this year, still not sure he can dethrone KNN54 though...
Yep...and blew a lot of them last year too. I'm pretty sure Cluzel DNF'd in at least 3 races last year while running at the front because of mechanical/electrical issues.

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I wouldn't call it outclassed considering the number of CBR's in WSP, and that VDM won on a Honda not too long ago. Same bike then as it is now, and the Kawasaki is the same now as it was then too. But the MV has gotten better and better recently...just not in reliability. I hope to see some R6's next year too.



Yep...and blew a lot of them last year too. I'm pretty sure Cluzel DNF'd in at least 3 races last year while running at the front because of mechanical/electrical issues.
I think Lorenzo blew 2 or 3 as well when running in the top 5, I'm also thinking there was one race where they both DNF'd...

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What do you guys think?? Personally I hope WSP doesn't go away. I don't really mind seeing other types of bikes and classes, but not at the expense of something so iconic that works so well. If that happens it would pretty much put an end to 600s

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What do you guys think?? Personally I hope WSP doesn't go away. I don't really mind seeing other types of bikes and classes, but not at the expense of something so iconic that works so well. If that happens it would pretty much put an end to 600s

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Not a fan of this in any way! I love the 600 class super sport! It seems to be much more competitive than WSBK at times. Maybe add it to the schedule at certain tracks at first to see if it even will get attention.
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