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I still need to get used to seeing Lorenzo in red, and someone on a Yamaha that's not him or Rossi lol
Dude sitting at a table at my restaurant had on a Vinales Suzuki shirt. Struck up a great, quick convo on the matter of MotoGP. Love seeing fans of the sport.

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PS: Bring back Spa Belgium to the schedule!!
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PS: Bring back Spa Belgium to the schedule!!
I agree although I don't see that happening anytime soon. I don't think Spa is considered safe enough for bikes. After playing it on car sim games along with many other world famous tracks, Spa is one of my top 5 for sure, but I could see it being a bit sketchy in some areas, especially on MotoGP bikes. It has some VERY fast sections.

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I agree although I don't see that happening anytime soon. I don't think Spa is considered safe enough for bikes. After playing it on car sim games along with many other world famous tracks, Spa is one of my top 5 for sure, but I could see it being a bit sketchy in some areas, especially on MotoGP bikes. It has some VERY fast sections.
Hahaha I love it on Forza 6. Just read a story about Nakano doing laps on a ZX-RR. Found out it was on the docket as part of Rainey's 1990 championship.

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Anyone have any more information on the carbon fibre forks Ducati was testing for Ohlins? Initial reports were positive but I didn't hear them follow up at the end of the third day.
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Anyone have any more information on the carbon fibre forks Ducati was testing for Ohlins? Initial reports were positive but I didn't hear them follow up at the end of the third day.
Carbon forks??

Have not heard or seen anything about this.

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Have not heard or seen anything about this.
Yeah Pirro was testing them on the second and third day but they only mentioned them during the third day's broadcast. The Ohlins rep stated they are significantly lighter than the current fork while offering same performance as the current model. The sliding tube was still metal but the rest of the fork minus the caps were carbon, it was pretty cool, would like to seen if the triples were carbon as well...

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Yeah Pirro was testing them on the second and third day but they only mentioned them during the third day's broadcast. The Ohlins rep stated they are significantly lighter than the current fork while offering same performance as the current model. The sliding tube was still metal but the rest of the fork minus the caps were carbon, it was pretty cool, would like to seen if the triples were carbon as well...
They're probably having to add weight in other places though if they're losing weight in others. There's a minimum weight requirement with bike+rider so I'm sure it's more about centralization of mass rather than going on a diet. I'd be interested in seeing exactly what they're trying to do with this idea.
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They're probably having to add weight in other places though if they're losing weight in others. There's a minimum weight requirement with bike+rider so I'm sure it's more about centralization of mass rather than going on a diet. I'd be interested in seeing exactly what they're trying to do with this idea.

Yes the rep mentioned this as well, it allows teams already at the minimum weight to move weight around, making it more centralized, he also mentioned a benefit to lightening suspension parts specifically. As well teams struggling to hit the min weight with heavy riders such as Baz or Redding see a benefit as well. But yes this was the first test, I'm sure we will see them again at Phillip Island...
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Yes the rep mentioned this as well, it allows teams already at the minimum weight to move weight around, making it more centralized, he also mentioned a benefit to lightening suspension parts specifically. As well teams struggling to hit the min weight with heavy riders such as Baz or Redding see a benefit as well. But yes this was the first test, I'm sure we will see them again at Phillip Island...
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They're probably having to add weight in other places though if they're losing weight in others. There's a minimum weight requirement with bike+rider so I'm sure it's more about centralization of mass rather than going on a diet. I'd be interested in seeing exactly what they're trying to do with this idea.
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"Ducati’s GP17 appeared with a small box in the back of the seat hump. There was endless speculation about the contents of this box. Pramac Ducati rider Michele Pirro joked that it contained a hotdog and a fizzy drink. Others were sure it contained electronics kit. But why put that weight in the worst possible place – high up and at the rear of the bike?

Or could the box hold a chatter damper? Chatter is a common problem in bike racing – a harmonics mismatch caused by resonance from the tyres and chassis that causes a high-speed vibration between the tyres and the track, which can cause a catastrophic loss of grip. Adding a kilo at the extreme rear of the bike could damp out chatter, because the moment of inertia increases by the square of distance, so a small weight that far from the centre of the motorcycle would have a significant effect.

Marlboro Team Roberts learned this by coincidence in the late 1980s, during the very early years of datalogging. Wayne Rainey’s Yamaha YZR500 was equipped with a datalogger during practice, but not during the race, because it weighed a significant amount – about two kilos. Rainey would have a great two days of practice and go to bed full of confidence on Saturday night, while his mechanics removed the datalogger. The race would be completely different, Rainey would struggle with chatter, get beaten and return to his pit baffled. At first his crew thought he had got a bad tyre, but after three races they realised what was going on. The datalogger was housed in the set hump and cured any chatter.

Or could the box contain something even more magical? An engineer from a rival MotoGP team suggested it’s a box of winglets. No, really. He thinks the box contains a gyroscope designed to reduce wheelies, thus replacing the winglets that used front-end aero downforce to reduce wheelies.

According to this engineer, the gyroscope is positioned in the very centre of the bike as far back as it can possibly go, which is where it needs to be to have any effect. It must be heavy and spin forward at a very fast rate to affect the attitude of the bike during acceleration. Maybe Ducati uses tungsten, a heavy metal? Years ago HRC used tungsten plugs in their NSR500 crankshaft flywheels to increase or decrease gyroscopic effect.

The gyroscope might work something like an engine turbocharger, spinning at an incredibly high rate (between 80,000 and 200,000rpm is normal for a turbocharger). This gyroscope would obviously do a very different job – spinning forward to overcome the rearward rotation of the motorcycle as it wheelies. Most of us already know that a motorcycle with a forward-spinning crankshaft wheelies less than a bike with a rearward-spinning crank, due to torque reaction."

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