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ah, come on man. . . .

Ya'll know you didn't even see that coming.
You mean Lorenzo's podium??

I certainly didn't see it at first, but once I realized Rossi's going backwards, and gravel Cal doing his thing again, that opened up the opportunity for Lorenzo.

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I stayed up to watch all the races live. I remember Moto3 being an epic race, and Moto2 I'm glad Marquez finally finished a race (and won). Good battle for 2nd.

That said, I was super tired when the MotoGP race came on (it was 5AM and I'd only slept from about midnight until 2AM). I remember Zarco passing Rossi, I remember Crutchlow crashing, and I remember Marquez winning. Now, Marquez didn't win, so I think I need to go back and rewatch the race. Did Pedrosa wheelie out of the last corner and set it down just before crossing the line? Cause I remember Marquez doing that, but might have just mixed riders since I was falling asleep.

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Pedrosa is on a charge and I couldn't be happier. While not a Honda fan I am so glad that he is able to put some great laps together. If anyone deserves a win, it is that little midget :-p

MM in 2nd is no surprise...and it seems that the JLO haters may be in for some trouble...he podiumed earlier than I predicted. Haven't seen Moto3 or Moto2 yet...
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Crashlow: "Fall probably cost me podium". Its a shame he thinks he's was better than the current factory riders.

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Crashlow: "Fall probably cost me podium". Its a shame he thinks he's was better than the current factory riders.
I honestly think he would've been on the podium had he not crashed...but no way to tell, so who cares at this point.

All I can say is Cal would've had a LOT more points in every season so far if it wasn't for his crashing habits lol

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Also ..... does anyone know what the story is with riders not 'allowed' to say anything negative about the tires? Vinales has specifically come out and mentioned that he can't say anything bad about Michelin.


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Aleix: "We were riding slower than Moto2, street bikes," he said.

"So this unbelievable. Impossible. We spend a lot of millions to come here and lap slower than Spanish championship superbikes.

"The tyre needs to improve a lot. The problem was not to be fast, the problem was to stay on the bike. It was one of the most difficult races for me.

"I had the harder option but for me when the track temperature is like this as soon as you release the front brake just losing, losing, no weight, no pushing to the ground."
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With track temperatures of 41C, one degree up on fourth practice on Saturday and the 2016 race, Michelin's MotoGP project leader Nicolas Goubert conceded conditions "made grip levels very difficult" for riders, and said his firm wants to improve.

"The surface is always quite slippery, but as the temperatures rise the adhesion reduces further and this creates issues that the riders didn't have to contend with on the other days this weekend," he said.

"The guys out there really had to manage their tyres to get the best performance, and it is something that we will have to look at for the next time we visit Jerez if the track temperature is very high again."
Then you have Vinales blaming but not blaming Michelin . . .

MotoGP News - MotoGP Spain: Vinales: I crashed in Austin with same problem

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“So my problem was in the front, on the right side. This morning was perfect. Something we didn't understand and we have to work. I know that we crashed in Austin for the same problem, but today I had the luck that I was not so fast as Austin, I had some riders in front, so I could not push at 100%. That's why today I saved the crashes.”

When pressed on the cause of these issues with the front, he said, “I cannot tell the truth. Finally… difficult. I cannot say nothing. Finally, if you say something, you get an email. So you cannot say something about this.

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I honestly think he would've been on the podium had he not crashed...but no way to tell, so who cares at this point.

All I can say is Cal would've had a LOT more points in every season so far if it wasn't for his crashing habits lol
It does seem like the guys on satellite teams spend a bit more time in the gravel pits, Cal being one of the most frequent visitors. Maybe that's because they're riding inferior equipment and have to push harder so they're closer to the edge, or maybe its simply that they're not as good.....

Is it just me or does it seem like every race you've got guys in 10th to 20th position, a minute or more behind the leader, crashing with just a few laps left in the race? Guys like Abraham, Miller, Lowes, etc.... Wait a minute - maybe its mostly the Brits and Aussies?

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Some more info on the Michelin tire

https://motomatters.com/analysis/201...d_up_grip.html

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The problem was even visible to the riders he was racing against. "With Maverick, I saw that his feeling on the front was very very bad, so he couldn't ride in a normal way," Andrea Dovizioso explained to us. Viñales himself put his issues down to a problem with the tires, though he was careful not to come out and say it directly. After beating around the bush for a while, Viñales finally gave some kind of answer. "I cannot tell the truth," Viñales sighed. "Finally … it's difficult. I cannot say anything. In the end, if you say something, you get an email. So you cannot say something about this."

Speaking to the Spanish and Catalan press, he was even more adamant. His team had done a brilliant job all weekend, he said, and he didn't want to blame his team for the issues. The only logical explanation in Viñales' mind was that the front tire he had been given was not performing the way it should.

When asked if the setup changes his team had made on Sunday, changing the balance of the bike to put a little more weight on the front, could have caused the issue, Viñales was once again outspoken. "No," he replied, "because this morning was really good on the front. I was feeling quite impressive, because where we improved a little bit more was to make more corner speed, and to close the corner with the front tire. That's why I'm so disappointed, because this morning the front tire was working really good. I didn't use so much the rear. That's why I'm really disappointed, because we don't understand why the bike changed so much in just four hours."

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"If you say something, you get an email...so you can't say anything about this"

LOL...that's what sucks about racing at that level. That's why Stoner quit. That's why racing was so much cooler in the 20th century. Now everyone's a little bitch. A racer will say one F-word on TV and the commentators have to apologize for it, the team has to apologize, the rider will later have to. Used to be that you'd hear 2 racers cussing each other out on live TV, and you just grabbed your popcorn and turn the volume up! What happened to those days??
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"If you say something, you get an email...so you can't say anything about this"

LOL...that's what sucks about racing at that level. That's why Stoner quit. That's why racing was so much cooler in the 20th century. Now everyone's a little bitch. A racer will say one F-word on TV and the commentators have to apologize for it, the team has to apologize, the rider will later have to. Used to be that you'd hear 2 racers cussing each other out on live TV, and you just grabbed your popcorn and turn the volume up! What happened to those days??

As per protocol, I blame hipsters.
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@sbk1198 @Sandman you guys aren't kidding. Jack Miller was given a €1,000 Euro fine for reacting angrily to the incident, Miller pushing Bautista over in gravel trap before kicking Bautista's machine.




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"If you say something, you get an email...so you can't say anything about this"

LOL...that's what sucks about racing at that level. That's why Stoner quit. That's why racing was so much cooler in the 20th century. Now everyone's a little bitch. A racer will say one F-word on TV and the commentators have to apologize for it, the team has to apologize, the rider will later have to. Used to be that you'd hear 2 racers cussing each other out on live TV, and you just grabbed your popcorn and turn the volume up! What happened to those days??
Isn't it ironic the way we [society] expect our athletes to behave given the average content on network TV?

They should be allowed to be themselves. Racing is a cutthroat sport, no reason to expect saints.
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Isn't it ironic the way we [society] expect our athletes to behave given the average content on network TV?



They should be allowed to be themselves. Racing is a cutthroat sport, no reason to expect saints.


Well after the Miller crash we would have been watching boxing not racing if they were left to "be themselves" lol
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Good to see Lorenzo back to form to some extent. He might be a dick but he's a great rider and that's good for racing.

Crutchlow is starting to sound like an arrogant prick. I'm a long time fan, he's been my favorite rider for quite some time but I'm starting to see what so many others see in him. All this talk about not renewing his contract while he watches other factory riders who he knows are struggling on performance contracts as if he's a lock to get a factory seat again really put me over the edge.

Then he's off the bike in the gravel not two days later. He should act a bit more grateful to LCR for what they are doing and have done for him. That ride was a lifeline after his Ducati debacle.
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