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Sam Lowes is doing terrible so far. Even Rabat is outperforming him.

Aprilia rookie Sam Lowes: Cracking MotoGP 'like a jigsaw' - MotoGP - Autosport

Are you really surprised?

Lowes and Rins shouldn't be on a motogp bike.
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Are you really surprised?

Lowes and Rins shouldn't be on a motogp bike.
Lowes yes, but Rins...give him some more time. I bet he will improve. I don't see him being a podium contender anytime soon, but I think he'll improve quite a bit. He was fast on a Moto 3 bike as well as on a Moto 2 bike. He will be fast on a GP bike too, but the injury he's dealt with came at a bad time and probably just needs a bit more time to get used to the GP bike.

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Suter had a lot to say about Kent's early departure.

MotoGP News - Moto2: Suter talks Kent exit, Mackenzie chance


"His move is really difficult to understand and he really shouldn't have made that move, because normally you also have to go through bad times with your team. For me, in motorsport you take a decision for the whole season and a season isn't that long.

"If you've taken the wrong decision then you have to make the best of it and live with it for the year and then try and find a better solution for the next one.

"I remember when I was racing I took the decision to go with a particular suspension supplier and that decision turned out to be wrong because at the time that suspension really wasn't performing and on top of that I was one of the only riders on it.

"But I gave my word to them so we stuck with it and tried to develop it and make it better through that difficult year. I gave them my word for the year and learned from that experience about how to make better judgments for the following years.

"With the young guys nowadays though it's more difficult because they are dealing with such a short career and everything has to happen today. Nowadays if you get to the age of 22 you're already missing the bus and if you're 24 you should get a pension!"
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Interesting tidbit in Moto2. They looked at JD Beach to replace Danny Kent.






"We were also talking with Nicki Tuuli [WSS], a couple of Spanish guys; Augusto Fernandez, Alex Medina and we also talked with a couple of American riders including JD Beech. We were really looking around, but in the end of the day it also depends on what their contractual situation is.
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Lowes yes, but Rins...give him some more time. I bet he will improve. I don't see him being a podium contender anytime soon, but I think he'll improve quite a bit. He was fast on a Moto 3 bike as well as on a Moto 2 bike. He will be fast on a GP bike too, but the injury he's dealt with came at a bad time and probably just needs a bit more time to get used to the GP bike.

I never saw Rins as a major talent, even in Moto2. I mean obviously the dude has skill to do what he does, but it just doesn't seem like he's in the same league as other riders in the same championship.

He's been in the championship since 2012, and has yet to win a title. A couple of second places, but never a win. I will admit that it very easily could be me just missing something, but I do not see "it" in him.
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Interesting tidbit in Moto2. They looked at JD Beach to replace Danny Kent.

"We were also talking with Nicki Tuuli [WSS], a couple of Spanish guys; Augusto Fernandez, Alex Medina and we also talked with a couple of American riders including JD Beech. We were really looking around, but in the end of the day it also depends on what their contractual situation is.
Read more at MotoGP News - Moto2: Suter talks Kent exit, Mackenzie chance
Hmm...as much as I want an American in GP, I just don't see JD Beach doing that well if he goes to Moto 2. He'd probably do a bit better than Herrin did when he went to Moto 2 for a few rounds, but not much better. Not familiar with the bike or tracks is not easy at that level. He and Gerloff are in a class of their own in MotoAmerica SuperSport, so I definitely agree they should move on to something more competitive, but I fear like Moto 2 might kick his ass too much too soon. But if he gets the deal, then I hope I'm wrong.

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I never saw Rins as a major talent, even in Moto2. I mean obviously the dude has skill to do what he does, but it just doesn't seem like he's in the same league as other riders in the same championship.

He's been in the championship since 2012, and has yet to win a title. A couple of second places, but never a win. I will admit that it very easily could be me just missing something, but I do not see "it" in him.
Umm...in his first year in Moto 2 he had 10 podiums, 2 wins and finished 2nd in the championship. Last year, not quite as good but still 7 podiums, 2 wins, and 3rd in the championship. How is that not a "major talent" and not in the same league as others?? Clearly he was better that almost everyone he raced with....Zarco was really the only one that kicked his ass.

If you're writing him off just because he didn't win a championship yet, doesn't mean he's not good enough. Only one person can win each year out of like 25-35. Look back at history. Go look at how many people won in the 125s/Moto 3, or 250s/Moto 2 that have never won in MotoGP and have pretty much zero hopes of doing so. And then look at some of the examples that have never won in those smaller classes but did well in MotoGP....Casey Stoner never won in 125s or 250s, but he's one of the best racers of all time.
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"After the difficulties during the Jerez weekend, Le Mans will be very important," Rossi said. "It is true that we are still first in the championship standings, and this is nice for us, but we need to improve the bike to be really competitive."

MotoGP News - MotoGP France: Rossi: We need to improve the bike

I don't think Maverick agrees with that. He doesn't have a problem with the current bike setup.
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Neither one of them looked good in the last race.. Unless I'm not remembering right.
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Neither one of them looked good in the last race.. Unless I'm not remembering right.
Yeah but that was attributed to bad tire choices for the race, and Maverick's crash in Argentina was caused by a "bad tire". Maverick dominated the Jerez test times sheet the day after the race. Additionally, Zarco did amazingly well on the satellite machine.

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I was just watching this and it's as if Palpatine is Dorna talking about Rossi's future replacement (probably Zarco)


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Yeah but that was attributed to bad tire choices for the race, and Maverick's crash in Argentina was caused by a "bad tire". Maverick dominated the Jerez test times sheet the day after the race. Additionally, Zarco did amazingly well on the satellite machine.
I really don't know what the issue is with Rossi. I don't want to believe it's Rossi himself, as he knows the bike better than anyone, and seemingly consistently fesses up when *he* messes up.

I would LIKE to believe that it is something in the frame design that doesn't suite him, which he is having work around or is trying to mitigate with a semi-working setup ..... but can't seem to find it. He's also been complaining about the front tires since day one, if I recall correctly. He definitely doesn't seem quite as strong this season even in spite of the fact that he's leading the championship.

We will probably get the best indication of how the rest of the championship will go with the next three races, especially for Rossi. Last year, he won in Jerez, was second in Le Mans, very VERY likely would've won in Mugello, and then won again in Catalunya.
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Danny Kent's slide of the story

MotoGP News - MotoGP France: Kent: It got to the stage I didn?t want to ride anymore

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That seems to make sense. I mean, a really professional racer with a strong personality might be able to go to the team manager and say, "This is unsafe, these mistakes keep happening. We need to create a process that will resolve this issue so we don't waste time.", but it takes experience to be able to handle people like that. And if the team manager is part of the problem, what can you do?

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