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post #31 of 48 Old 01-24-2017, 07:30 PM Thread Starter
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I'm not sure I'm following...why would it not work well? Here's what I'm talking about. Clip through the drain bolt, anchored with a wire in a bit of tension to some anchor point. That can never loosen at that point.

I've had an oil filter that was safety-wired and it still came loose just enough to leak some oil in the belly pan. I think anything that you can do to make it better, and more efficient is worth doing. I hate safety-wiring, especially things that are in tight places where you can barely get your hands through, or stuff on the bottom when you have to sit in awkward positions to do it. I know that if done right, any method should work, I just feel like using a clip like I have drawn is a much easier and quicker way while achieving the same result.
Yea, there it is going to be bending and stretching the safety clip if you have tension in it. It just won't be as secure as straight safety wiring it. Over time that clip will try to deform and loosen and the wire will fatigue and maybe break on you. Not saying it isn't better than nothing or imminent failure, but with the drain plug being pretty much the most important thing to wire (and also being something that will leak if it even if it just comes loose) tech wouldn't let us do that if they actually bent down and looked at it. I had an old clip on an axle and if I just gave it a tug from the end, where you have the safety wire attached, I could get it to just pop off (obviously I replaced it). When you have a clip like your axle pinch bolts all the safety wire on the end would be doing is holding the clip when you have it un-clipped.

With the oil filter did you have a hose clamp on it? If you just do the nut on the K&N's that doesn't allow you to give the wire any leverage to hold tension on it. I used to do that until someone pointed out how it did nothing. Annoyingly I agreed.
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Yea, there it is going to be bending and stretching the safety clip if you have tension in it. It just won't be as secure as straight safety wiring it. Over time that clip will try to deform and loosen and the wire will fatigue and maybe break on you. Not saying it isn't better than nothing or imminent failure, but with the drain plug being pretty much the most important thing to wire (and also being something that will leak if it even if it just comes loose) tech wouldn't let us do that if they actually bent down and looked at it. I had an old clip on an axle and if I just gave it a tug from the end, where you have the safety wire attached, I could get it to just pop off (obviously I replaced it). When you have a clip like your axle pinch bolts all the safety wire on the end would be doing is holding the clip when you have it un-clipped.
I see your point, but there's no way or reason for the clip to get bent. There's no force on it aside from the little tension in the wire, and once it bends just a bit there would be no force anymore. Plus you're talking about using a wimpy clip if it's just going to bend like that. This is less likely to bend than safety wire is likely to break (had that happen once too when I went to a slightly smaller diameter wire..0.58 mm or something like that). It would take a lot more to bend these than what a bit of vibration can do. I even purposely tried to unscrew one of these off after putting the clip through and I couldn't do it, and it wasn't tightened at all. You'd have to put a wrench on it and give it a fair bit of force to bend it and break it. I can pretty well guarantee you it'll be fine.

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With the oil filter did you have a hose clamp on it? If you just do the nut on the K&N's that doesn't allow you to give the wire any leverage to hold tension on it. I used to do that until someone pointed out how it did nothing. Annoyingly I agreed.
Yes, the filter had a hose clamp on. I can't remember exactly what the issue ended up being, if the wire failed or if the clamp wasn't tight enough on the filter. It's been about 3 years or so.

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Got some more goodies today from a new sponsor! Our very own PSlo at MSM! Got some titanium hardware for the front end!

Glad you are liking the new bolts, and welcome to the MSM team of supported riders for 2017! I am very happy to lend assistance to our domestic racers.

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Because safety-wiring sucks!

This is much better. Clip going through both pinch bolts. No way to twist off, and much easier to take on/off. Might end up tying it to a wire though so I don't forget and lose it when I change wheels (did that once with my rear wheel clip...forgot it on the ground in the paddock).

The MSM titanium bolts work very well for this. Just needed some spacers so that the holes in the bolt heads clear the recessed edge of the fork.
Good deal! Just be sure that your org will accept this solution as my local will not. I assume it is because of the concern that the clip will unhook and fall out.

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Good deal! Just be sure that your org will accept this solution as my local will not. I assume it is because of the concern that the clip will unhook and fall out.
Really?? Doesn't LRRS use the same rules as CCS? CCS only requires oil drain bolt, oil filter, oil fill plug and I think radiator cap to be safety wired. Everything else that I'm doing is optional.

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Really?? Doesn't LRRS use the same rules as CCS? CCS only requires oil drain bolt, oil filter, oil fill plug and I think radiator cap to be safety wired. Everything else that I'm doing is optional.
They do, but also have modified rules on top of things. We are required to safety wire calipers, forks, exhaust, and anything that contains fluid (oil filter, drain bolt, coolant drain, radiator cap, etc).
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Got my CCS license in the mail today! Finally! That took about 2 months.

Even got to keep my previous number that I had in 2015 so no need to get new number plates

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Alright, here it is...finally got the replacement Carrozzeria wheel for the one that cracked last year. Ordered it about a month ago after deciding I wasn't going to overcome my OCD of have mismatched wheels! lol...Luke from CoreMoto (the new makers of Carrozzeria as of a year ago), gave me a generous discount on it if I sent him the old one so they can analyze the failure mode. Ended up costing me $700 because they also reused the hardware from the old one (spacers, rotor holder, sprocket holder, fasteners, etc.). Retail is like $1100 I think, unless they changed the prices for this year.

So now I have 2 full sets of wheels. The OEM's will be used with rain tires on wet days, and probably for supersport races with DOT's, where you can't use aftermarket wheels and slicks per the rules, as well as probably some track days where I don't care if I'm like half a second slower and I don't want to burn up my slicks. The forged wheels will be used with slicks for most dry races or whenever I want to really push it.

Also got me a shock spring and a set of fork springs to hopefully dial in the suspensions a bit better. Up until now the rear was too stiff and the front was a bit on the soft side. I went 1 size up in stiffness on the fork springs and 2 sizes down on the shock. I'm hoping I made the right decision there.
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Alright, here it is...finally got the replacement Carrozzeria wheel for the one that cracked last year. Ordered it about a month ago after deciding I wasn't going to overcome my OCD of have mismatched wheels! lol...Luke from CoreMoto (the new makers of Carrozzeria as of a year ago), gave me a generous discount on it if I sent him the old one so they can analyze the failure mode. Ended up costing me $700 because they also reused the hardware from the old one (spacers, rotor holder, sprocket holder, fasteners, etc.). Retail is like $1100 I think, unless they changed the prices for this year.

So now I have 2 full sets of wheels. The OEM's will be used with rain tires on wet days, and probably for supersport races with DOT's, where you can't use aftermarket wheels and slicks per the rules, as well as probably some track days where I don't care if I'm like half a second slower and I don't want to burn up my slicks. The forged wheels will be used with slicks for most dry races or whenever I want to really push it.

Also got me a shock spring and a set of fork springs to hopefully dial in the suspensions a bit better. Up until now the rear was too stiff and the front was a bit on the soft side. I went 1 size up in stiffness on the fork springs and 2 sizes down on the shock. I'm hoping I made the right decision there.
That's some good customer service.
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Alright, here it is...finally got the replacement Carrozzeria wheel for the one that cracked last year. Ordered it about a month ago after deciding I wasn't going to overcome my OCD of have mismatched wheels! lol...Luke from CoreMoto (the new makers of Carrozzeria as of a year ago), gave me a generous discount on it if I sent him the old one so they can analyze the failure mode. Ended up costing me $700 because they also reused the hardware from the old one (spacers, rotor holder, sprocket holder, fasteners, etc.). Retail is like $1100 I think, unless they changed the prices for this year.

So now I have 2 full sets of wheels. The OEM's will be used with rain tires on wet days, and probably for supersport races with DOT's, where you can't use aftermarket wheels and slicks per the rules, as well as probably some track days where I don't care if I'm like half a second slower and I don't want to burn up my slicks. The forged wheels will be used with slicks for most dry races or whenever I want to really push it.

Also got me a shock spring and a set of fork springs to hopefully dial in the suspensions a bit better. Up until now the rear was too stiff and the front was a bit on the soft side. I went 1 size up in stiffness on the fork springs and 2 sizes down on the shock. I'm hoping I made the right decision there.
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The ZX6R is all ready to go. A bit more sticker tuning on it and the trailer, which should be good for 2 more hp for the bike and 2 mpg while pulling the trailer
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Some sticker tuning for the helmet as well, from @PainfullySlo . The motto fits perfectly on the back and it will be a good reminder every time I put the helmet on
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Just registered for the first track day of the season! I really wanted to get a day in to ride before I go racing at the end of the month and do a quick shake-down since I haven't been on track since September. Unfortunately my R3 is not ready yet as I'm waiting on bodywork, but that's ok, I figured it's worth going anyway. I'll just have the ZX6R and it'll be nice to have a day to just focus on one bike and get the suspensions dialed in since I made some changes in the off-season.

It'll be this Sunday at Heartland Park Topeka, which was freshly paved during this last winter and fall. I've only been there once, back in 2014 before it was closed. Now, it re-opened and with new pavement, so it should be fun as long as it doesn't rain.

I'm excited!

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First track day of the season (aka pre-season testing lol) is in the books. Had a good time at Heartland Park Topeka, which was freshly paved a few months ago. Unfortunately it rained last night so the first 2 sessions were pretty wet and then it rained just before the last session of the day too, but that's ok, I got enough track time in for the day in the other sessions. Track is still pretty green and although one of the smoothest surfaces I've been on, it almost seemed to smooth and none of us really had much confidence to push. Cars need to start laying down some rubber on it soon.

Mixed video currently uploading. I will post tomorrow. For now, just a couple of pictures from the garage...next door to my friend's HSBK Aprilia RSV4, which I believe was either Claudio Corti's or Sheridan Morais' bike. That thing is an absolute beast! Definitely that fastest bike on track today...unfortunately he lost his gas cap the first time he rode it, so he only got a few laps in on it lol



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