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post #16 of 34 Old 02-24-2017, 07:08 PM
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Wasn't she just begging for money and selling her stuff to even make this years races As shitty as that situation is, I highly doubt it is why she left racing (cause it kinda has nothing to do with racing).

My opinion is she left because no one would pick her up as a rider and she ran herself broke with her own team...
At the end of the 2015 season I talked with her at Laguna Seca. She had a main sponsor (McGraw) but the rest was all going on her credit cards. McGraw was still going to sponsor her for 2016 but she decided not to race. They paid for the bikes and some of the bills, but the rest fell on her because it was her team.

Now that she's a rep for McGraw she's probably making more money now anyway

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But then why stop cold turkey like that? If she can't afford MotoAmerica, she could make some money racing at club level. A racer of her caliber could win a lot in any racing organization in this country as an expert. The amount she could win would pay for all her races, tires, and other costs. That's basically what some of those fast AMA guys did, like Geoff May, Cory West, etc. May said he won over $25k in contingency last year on his zx10r....and that was all from WERA rounds I'm pretty sure.

There's probably more to it I'm sure....either way, still a shitty deal to have to go through.
See comments regarding the mental blocks that she is still dealing with. And with maxed out credit, there was now two reasons not to race. Add in getting married and you have three.


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If it does, the person doesn't usually refer to it as sexual assault.
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So youre telling me stuff like this never happens??
It happens occasionally to celebrities...like girls claiming they were assaulted by Justin Bieber, or they're pregnant with their babies, because they know they have a lot of money and they're trying to get some money out of them. It does not happen to some random sorry ass massage therapist. Do you think someone like Elena Myers would have any reason at all to frame some random dude?? For what?? That guy probably has less money than she does and he's a nobody.

There are far more cases of people that were victims of sexual assault (usually kids and women) who only spoke out about it years later because they didn't know how to cope with it, were afraid, or they heard others that were assaulted by the same person so they came out publicly because....strength in numbers!
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It's a shame that she is not racing anymore regardless of the circumstances. But the fact that it may be mostly attributed to this assault is gut wrenching. She is arguably one of the top female racers in the world, and has a lot of good years ahead of her. She finished 5th in points in her first season on a Superbike in 2015 while running her own race team! Hopefully she can get past her fear and anxiety and ride like she once did. She really hasn't ridden much at all since 2015, if it was all about money she'd be out there riding and trying to prove to sponsors that she has what it takes to compete with the big boys.
Here is a good article about her from January 2016 : Five Questions: Elena Myers Court, Team21Motosport Owner And Rider | MotoAmerica

I attached a pic of a letter that she had sent to me along with some stickers after I donated like $15 via paypal to help her make it to her last couple of rounds in 2015. I thought it was pretty cool and showed her integrity.
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It happens occasionally to celebrities...like girls claiming they were assaulted by Justin Bieber, or they're pregnant with their babies, because they know they have a lot of money and they're trying to get some money out of them. It does not happen to some random sorry ass massage therapist. Do you think someone like Elena Myers would have any reason at all to frame some random dude?? For what?? That guy probably has less money than she does and he's a nobody.

There are far more cases of people that were victims of sexual assault (usually kids and women) who only spoke out about it years later because they didn't know how to cope with it, were afraid, or they heard others that were assaulted by the same person so they came out publicly because....strength in numbers!
It can happen to anyone!!!!!!!
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Yall realize that even a sponsored racer is still paying 40k+ on a MotoAmerica season?? Unless they are someone like Cameron than they better have money.

And to whoever said someone made 10k racing, ya, but they spent 20k.
No club level racer makes money racing, and neither do 95% of the riders in MotoAmerica.

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"“After kind of looking at things and how they went last year I had to think hard about it. I continued to find sponsors for this coming season, but it was going to have to be more than it was this previous season for it to work out so I wasn’t going into debt doing it, which I did in 2015. I maxxed out all of my credit cards. And things just haven’t panned out.

“I’ve reached out to some people, and some people have reached out to me, and we haven’t been able to find the proper funding. At this time I need to be realistic. Going racing, it’s a full-time job running a program and training to be the racer as well. And not being able to have a regular job makes it really tough just to live."


?Elena Myers Unable To Secure Funding To Go Racing In 2016

"Myers said late last year she set a deadline of January 15, 2016, to decide if she had what she needed to move forward with the 2016 racing season.

“That date came and went and nothing transpired,” Myers said. “I’m going to try to pursue a career in the industry, but it’s certainly not the end of my racing career. It’s just, I guess a little break to pay bills.”


She literally said it herself, money. This is why I think the whole massage therapist thing is BS.
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Plus she didn't "walk away" from two wheels, she works for McGraw and moved to Atlanta, GA to do it.

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So after that happened in Feb 2014 she managed to race all year amazingly and place top 5?? Then 2 years later be like, oh no I can't race 2016...


i smell bullshit.

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Snazzy, you haven't been around the block in racing long enough to know. Once you get to that level there is a lot more than simply hopping on a bike. The best way I have heard it explained is like this:
Oh yea? Cause I got pregnant and had a miscarriage in the middle of my race season, which was the hardest thing I have ever gone though.... The only thing that kept my head above water was the love of the bike. Which I finished a season 2nd in LOR, 1st win, beat all my personal bests, etc

Don't down talk people unless you are at Johnathan Rea's level, kthanx.


Her story was in 2014, she still raced all of 2015 and then couldn't afford 2016. Something that happened 2-3 years ago is why she isn't racing? Right.
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Snazzy,

I've been married for 30 years, and I still can't follow my wife's thought process worth a d@mn. I would have to look at this through the perspective of my gender, age, and experience...... as such, I can't call BS with any authority. If she is accusing this a$$hat of a crime, doesn't he have a right to face that in court? Could he not counter sue for defamation of character?

Do I have any reason to presume this did not occur? Is there reasonable doubt? Does inappropriate touching have a statute of limitations?

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I understand that the psychology of a situation like this is never, ever, simple and straightforward. Who knows what goes through an individual's mind at a time like this. The cultural baggage that might make this seem impossible to overcome is significant.

As Snazzy points out -- is this scenario being used as an excuse to mask another problem? At what cost to the person so accused? And to the person making the accusation?

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What defines a criminal act? The definition I was given many years ago during a stint in military law enforcement for this sort of crime was, 'penetration, however slight'. As this is all hearsay, that's a very difficult legal standard to demonstrate, especially years after the fact. No evidence of a crime does not mean a crime has not been committed -- but it makes it seriously difficult to prosecute.

When does someone become complicit to a criminal act? If you don't report such an incident immediately, if you don't object to the behavior immediately..... is there some burden on the afflicted? Scratching, bruising, other evidence that can be washed away...... there has to be some responsibility to defend one's self at some point. Whether that is with physical violence, or simply having the fortitude to stand up and be counted is a very difficult and personal decision.

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Oh yea? Cause I got pregnant and had a miscarriage in the middle of my race season, which was the hardest thing I have ever gone though.... The only thing that kept my head above water was the love of the bike. Which I finished a season 2nd in LOR, 1st win, beat all my personal bests, etc

Don't down talk people unless you are at Johnathan Rea's level, kthanx.


Her story was in 2014, she still raced all of 2015 and then couldn't afford 2016. Something that happened 2-3 years ago is why she isn't racing? Right.
First, I am terribly sorry to hear about what you went through. That must have been absolutely horrible but I am glad that you were able to center yourself through something that you love.

Secondly, I am an educator. As I have a significant amount of experience with all things two wheeled (I have been riding longer than many of you have been alive) I was simply trying to express to you that there may be things about racing that you may not yet be aware due to your limited experience. If you ever get to the point where you are winning top level championships, you will understand.
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What amazes me is that some people here question whether this even happened to her. This hotel should be shut the fuck down and this ass hole should be in fucking jail.

WHAT MYERS DIDN’T KNOW as she lay there, nearly naked and alone with McNeill, was that just two months earlier, a client at Hand & Stone Massage in Haverford had accused McNeill of indecent assault. (A jury acquitted him of that charge late last year.)

She also didn’t know that McNeill had been charged with raping a 12-year-old girl in 2007. According to the affidavit of probable cause in that arrest, McNeill raped her three times. Those charges were later withdrawn after a key witness repeatedly failed to appear in court.

Seven months before Myers would cross paths with McNeill, he had asked a judge to expunge that 2007 rape arrest because it “damaged [his] reputation and ability to gain promotions at work.” The judge refused.

But she didn’t know that either.

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And to whoever said someone made 10k racing, ya, but they spent 20k.
No club level racer makes money racing, and neither do 95% of the riders in MotoAmerica.
Actually some do, the really fast ones do. Not enough to make a living off it obviously, but enough to cover all of the costs of racing. I have a friend who races in CCS and he's right about at the breakeven point and he's not the fastest guy out there. If he could get some 1st or 2nd places in the unlimited classes he would end up making more than he spends in a year.

Talk to guys like Cory West and Geoff May and many other guys who raced in AMA and they weren't quite good enough to be consistently in the top 5 and secure enough sponsorship to continue racing in MotoAmerica, but fast enough to win just about any race in CCS or WERA. If Ryan Burke doesn't make more money in a year off club racing than what he spends it's because MRA is not that big and they don't have the same contingency levels as CCS or WERA.

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What amazes me is that some people here question whether this even happened to her. This hotel should be shut the fuck down and this ass hole should be in fucking jail .[/I]

This! So much this! End thread. Some of you seriously think she made up the story.

Wtf is wrong with some of u.

Snazzy, cool for you for dealing with your miscarriage and still going and winning. Please consider this. That level of competition and dedication is not the same and your time line of grief may differ from others. You never know in 3 years it might suddenly hit you like a ton of bricks (I hope it doesn't) . Then would it be fair for ppl to say snazzy is lying. She never miscarried because look she won a race after she said it happened.
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