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post #46 of 57 Old 12-16-2016, 09:48 AM
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Old post. Not a fan of the look. But to each his own.
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As has been pointed out, the over filled reservoir is the most likely culprit. It's worse as it were with braided lines because they have a much more limited expansion than O.E. rubber lines.

There are two more things your are most likely guilty of: 1) You need to really clean the calipers, pull the pads completely out. Give the pins the once over with either steel wool or 0000 wet/dry sand paper. Pull the pucks out and give them the same once over. After the pockets are cleaned up lube the pockets that the pucks reside in. Do not over do, you absolutely want no grease on your rotor/pads. Be tidy in all bike related procedures.

2) Your made the other neophyte mistake: You did not clean your rotors - I'm not talking as quick wipe off with a spot of water & soap. You need to get yourself a hone that you insert into a drill and scour the compressed crap the previous pads left on the rotor. Your rotors need to be completely removed from the wheel in order to do this properly. Do not feel bad for not doing this. Most rookies ignore this step (note: wipe down the rotors w/isopropyl or acetone; or brake cleaner but wear rubber glove if you go this route.)
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Old post. Not a fan of the look. But to each his own.

Did a little research last night and found out Puig makes the R12 frame sliders for my bike year but heard some just mediocre reviews on it from RevZilla. Was really hoping that the Puig Pro Sliders would fit but they won't. So I've narrowed my top three picks to be

1) Puig R12 frame sliders
2) OES Frame sliders
3) The knock off ali express aluminum frame sliders

Im more tempted to go with the OES mainly because they have a kit that comes with bar end sliders, front axle sliders, spools and the frame sliders.

However I like the look of the Puig R12 way better so Idk...

As well did a take a look at the spiegler LSL frame sliders but they happen to be the most expensive.

Any Ideas or thoughts on which ones you guys think I should go for?
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I'm thinking it's spam - and a sales pitch from a new "member."
LOL no sales pitch just looking for some ideas on frame sliders... Actually been a member for sometime just forgot what the password is for my old account and the email linked with it I no longer use...
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Did a little research last night and found out Puig makes the R12 frame sliders for my bike year but heard some just mediocre reviews on it from RevZilla. Was really hoping that the Puig Pro Sliders would fit but they won't. So I've narrowed my top three picks to be

1) Puig R12 frame sliders
2) OES Frame sliders
3) The knock off ali express aluminum frame sliders

Im more tempted to go with the OES mainly because they have a kit that comes with bar end sliders, front axle sliders, spools and the frame sliders.

However I like the look of the Puig R12 way better so Idk...

As well did a take a look at the spiegler LSL frame sliders but they happen to be the most expensive.

Any Ideas or thoughts on which ones you guys think I should go for?
IMO Woodcraft, R&G, LSL and Motovation make good sliders.

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In addition, I've been weary of using sliders since there have been various cases of them cracking the thin frame mounting points. I am currently using motovation frame sliders in conjunction with engine case covers and my thinking is they can reduce damage, given the crash is a "slide" and not a tumble or in a situation where it is knocked down. If there is excessive damage I'll just use my insurance coverage.

I've gone down with and without sliders and there was definitely less damage with them installed, but every crash is different so I always expect damage.

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IMO Woodcraft, R&G, LSL and Motovation make good sliders.

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In addition, I've been weary of using sliders since there have been various cases of them cracking the thin frame mounting points. I am currently using motovation frame sliders in conjunction with engine case covers and my thinking is they can reduce damage, given the crash is a "slide" and not a tumble or in a situation where it is knocked down. If there is excessive damage I'll just use my insurance coverage.

I've gone down with and without sliders and there was definitely less damage with them installed, but every crash is different so I always expect damage.

I have a few reviews of people describing how the frame slider cracked their frame which kind of worries me. I don't track my bike and have never been in any accidents. However, one hot summer day while at work I came out to find my bike toppled on its side. Found out that because of the immense pressure exerted on the stand and it sitting for a while on the hot asphalt it essentially melted in the asphalt causing it to collapse. Now had I had frame sliders the damage would probably been minimal if any. As I didn't it cracked my whole side faring and broke my turn signal and scuffed up my tail section. Anyhow I know from now on to carry a piece of wood to rest under my stand. Even so I'm still worried if it ever falls breaking fairings... Now that I've saved up enough money I'm doing the bike exactly how I want it. As it was originally stock. Meaning Blue New Monster fairings, new levers, new euro turn signals, new rearsets, new windscreen, new carbon fiber heel guards and wheel guards. But don't want it to go to waste if it gets dropped... So if frame sliders might crack the frame in the case of a crash would a cage do the same or no...
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Woodcraft sliders are the way to go, especially the short ones or those that fit under the fairings. Their puck design is great,

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Did a little research last night and found out Puig makes the R12 frame sliders for my bike year but heard some just mediocre reviews on it from RevZilla. Was really hoping that the Puig Pro Sliders would fit but they won't. So I've narrowed my top three picks to be

1) Puig R12 frame sliders
2) OES Frame sliders
3) The knock off ali express aluminum frame sliders

Im more tempted to go with the OES mainly because they have a kit that comes with bar end sliders, front axle sliders, spools and the frame sliders.

However I like the look of the Puig R12 way better so Idk...

As well did a take a look at the spiegler LSL frame sliders but they happen to be the most expensive.

Any Ideas or thoughts on which ones you guys think I should go for?


Perhaps something less 'arty', and something decidedly more functional. I've road test these more times than I care to admit to with (2) R1s, (3) CBRs, & (1) ZX. I'd put nothing less on any bike I'd own.

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With these frame sliders, because the centre is not bored out, they hold up remarkably well, and all one has to do after a drop is order up a replacement puck.

I also use their Folding Toe pegs (brake & gear shift), Front Axel Sliders, Starter Idler Gear Assembly. Eric Wood is a racer, thus uses his experiences, plus those of his competitors to assist in his product development.

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I have a few reviews of people describing how the frame slider cracked their frame which kind of worries me. I don't track my bike and have never been in any accidents. However, one hot summer day while at work I came out to find my bike toppled on its side. Found out that because of the immense pressure exerted on the stand and it sitting for a while on the hot asphalt it essentially melted in the asphalt causing it to collapse. Now had I had frame sliders the damage would probably been minimal if any. As I didn't it cracked my whole side faring and broke my turn signal and scuffed up my tail section. Anyhow I know from now on to carry a piece of wood to rest under my stand. Even so I'm still worried if it ever falls breaking fairings... Now that I've saved up enough money I'm doing the bike exactly how I want it. As it was originally stock. Meaning Blue New Monster fairings, new levers, new euro turn signals, new rearsets, new windscreen, new carbon fiber heel guards and wheel guards. But don't want it to go to waste if it gets dropped... So if frame sliders might crack the frame in the case of a crash would a cage do the same or no...
Like you said, in minor accidents on a hard surface (asphalt, concrete, ...) frame sliders can help. But at my last race my friend low sided and went into the grass hauling ass. His frame slider dug in and got the combo bonus points, breaking both the frame and ripping open the cylinder head on the engine. So, I personally won't use them. A cage can rip your engine casing and frame apart just like a frame slider. Just depends on the crash.

Edit- And obviously any frame sliders that don't protrude past the fairings will be useless to you.

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Like you said, in minor accidents on a hard surface (asphalt, concrete, ...) frame sliders can help. But at my last race my friend low sided and went into the grass hauling ass. His frame slider dug in and got the combo bonus points, breaking both the frame and ripping open the cylinder head on the engine. So, I personally won't use them. A cage can rip your engine casing and frame apart just like a frame slider. Just depends on the crash.

Edit- And obviously any frame sliders that don't protrude past the fairings will be useless to you.
Just ordered some sweet race rails from sick innovations. My thinking behind the race rails is that there is a less likely chance of cracking the frame because the pressure is spread out over a more broad surface area. Oppose to frame sliders as its one point that has to take the grunt of the impact. As for catching on surfaces and such I think there might be a greater chance in some situations like high siding but you're pretty much screwed in the event of a highside; In most cases it'll be totaled. Gonna cost me I little over $160 with tax and shipping but definitely think it's your best bet between frame sliders and a full on cage. Doesn't look nearly as bad as a cage either. At the end of the day I don't track my bike so no worries there and if something were to happen on the road or up in the canyons that resulted in a totaled bike, I'd go through my insurance.
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