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post #1 of 19 Old 02-08-2016, 12:30 PM Thread Starter
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I was helping a friend look for a KLR 650, and we found one for a good price with not too many miles.

We inspected the bike in the parking lot meetup, and I noted that the chain was nearly new, and had a clip type link that was not safety wired. (You can guess where this is going).

My buddy has taken the safety course but has no experience, so he rode it around the parking lot and turned it over to me for a road test.

I had also mentioned during inspection that the chain was too loose, and would need to be tightened before my friend really rode it (My plan was to adjust the chain after purchase, as we didn't have tools there). Despite that, I took it out on the road because we wanted to see if the transmission got through all the gears and make sure it rolled straight.

As you're expecting, the chain came off at about 50MPH. The tail of the chain smacked up the chain guard really good, and the bike slung the chain down onto the road. Bike stayed upright and I coasted to the side of the road.

I texted my friend 'It runs fine when the chain is on. The chain is no longer on the bike).

We used that to negotiate a better price, and had the guy deliver it. We bought a new rivet type master link, installed it and properly tightened the chain, and were off and running.

Moral of the story: If the chain is too loose, don't ride it. Don't use a clip type master link, but if you must, safety wire it.

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I used a clip link for 4 years with no safety wire and 30,000 miles, including two track days and never lost a single one...
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I used a clip link for 4 years with no safety wire and 30,000 miles, including two track days and never lost a single one...
In my case, I think part of what did it in was the slack in the chain causing slap, which whipped it out. Only a guess, though.

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In my case, I think part of what did it in was the slack in the chain causing slap, which whipped it out. Only a guess, though.
You can put the master link on backwards as well, which can cause it to pop off. The closed end of the link needs to be facing the direction of chain travel. Installed the correct way, they're fine. I always used a little dab of RTV silicone, to combat anything vibrating loose.
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I used a clip link for 4 years with no safety wire and 30,000 miles, including two track days and never lost a single one...
You could ride 4 years and 30000 miles without a helmet and gear too. Does that mean it's the best practice?
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I will not ride with a clip style master link. Why even risk the possibility that it could come off when you can just as easily run a riveted master?

Maybe it is the racer in me...it is all about risk mitigation.
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You could ride 4 years and 30000 miles without a helmet and gear too. Does that mean it's the best practice?
Probably the shittiest analogy I've ever seen. Thank you for your contribution.

You're comparing two perfectly fine methods of retaining a master link to riding without the most important piece of gear there is. As long as you do your maintenance by keeping the chain tension in spec and clean there is nothing wrong with a clip.
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I will not ride with a clip style master link. Why even risk the possibility that it could come off when you can just as easily run a riveted master?

Maybe it is the racer in me...it is all about risk mitigation.
Or maybe it's just a habit? The shop I went through in California ran clips on their 1000cc race bikes, 520s at that.
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Don't ask questions I guess. Noted.
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Don't ask questions I guess. Noted.
Questions are one thing but outlandish comparison are another.
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I was helping a friend look for a KLR 650, and we found one for a good price with not too many miles.

We inspected the bike in the parking lot meetup, and I noted that the chain was nearly new, and had a clip type link that was not safety wired. (You can guess where this is going).

My buddy has taken the safety course but has no experience, so he rode it around the parking lot and turned it over to me for a road test.

I had also mentioned during inspection that the chain was too loose, and would need to be tightened before my friend really rode it (My plan was to adjust the chain after purchase, as we didn't have tools there). Despite that, I took it out on the road because we wanted to see if the transmission got through all the gears and make sure it rolled straight.

As you're expecting, the chain came off at about 50MPH. The tail of the chain smacked up the chain guard really good, and the bike slung the chain down onto the road. Bike stayed upright and I coasted to the side of the road.

I texted my friend 'It runs fine when the chain is on. The chain is no longer on the bike).

We used that to negotiate a better price, and had the guy deliver it. We bought a new rivet type master link, installed it and properly tightened the chain, and were off and running.

Moral of the story: If the chain is too loose, don't ride it. Don't use a clip type master link, but if you must, safety wire it.





nice save. well done.
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I remember some dirt bike in the 70's the way the chain tensioner or chain guide was designed if you rolled the bike backwards you could pop the clip off. I wonder if the clip wasn't pushed on all the way or even bent a bit. Most importantly good save!
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