I want to upgrade my chain/sprockets for wheelies, need help. ('07/'08)This is a discussion on I want to upgrade my chain/sprockets for wheelies, need help. ('07/'08) within the Stunting forums, part of the ZX6R Forum category; I want to do my first major upgrade for sprockets (and I assume I'll need a new chain?) to be able to do power wheelies. ...  |
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07-31-2011, 11:39 AM
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#1 | | Team Green
Joined: Jan 2011 From: Illinois Posts: 118 I Ride: 2007 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R | I want to upgrade my chain/sprockets for wheelies, need help. ('07/'08)
I want to do my first major upgrade for sprockets (and I assume I'll need a new chain?) to be able to do power wheelies. From what little I've read there are different up/down sizes I can do with the sprockets. I know this will affect my top speed some, but what combo will let me do power wheelies easily in 1st & 2nd like it's nothing, but not crazily affect my gas mileage (I don't have a need to go whatever the ZX6R top speed is, but still like to go up to 120-130 lol)? So..enlighten me.
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07-31-2011, 11:45 AM
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#2 | | Team Green
Joined: Jul 2011 From: Twin Falls, Idaho Posts: 171 |
I think they say -1 in the front +2 in the back is what is good, plus u can keep your existing chain. Someone correct me if I'm wrong
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07-31-2011, 01:36 PM
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#3 | | World Superbike Champion
Joined: Feb 2011 From: Carlisle, PA Posts: 1,977 I Ride: 06 636 |
ya i think you can keep your chain with -1 +2 but if your changing all out anyways might as well change chain too........second thing -1 +2 would be good but learn to clutch up.. power wheelies can turn bad really quick...clutch up is so much smoother and you can control it alil bit more
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07-31-2011, 02:50 PM
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#4 | | Track Star
Joined: Feb 2011 From: Killeen tx Posts: 447 I Ride: 2007 ZX6R |
I think to do power wheelies easily you would need a crazy big rear sprocket. That's if your talking easy like liter bike easy.
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07-31-2011, 05:47 PM
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#5 | | Team Green
Joined: Jan 2011 From: Illinois Posts: 118 I Ride: 2007 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R |
Idk I can't seem to do clutch ups when I tried on my old bike ('05 636) and power wheelies in first seemed so easy to me. The '07 seems to have a little different power band than my '05 (plus I know it's not as powerful), and figured changing sprockets would be the best bet. Won't I also need a speedohealer too if I change sprockets?
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07-31-2011, 06:29 PM
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#6 | | World Superbike Racer
Joined: Jun 2007 From: Denton, TX. Posts: 1,637 I Ride: 2006 ZX6R 636 |
I have -1/+1 on my 636 and power wheelies are ridiculous easy. I am one of those those that say stay away from power wheelies and learn the clutch-up technique. Power wheelies are too unpredictable IMHO. Even so you really can't go wrong with -1/+1 or -1/+2.
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07-31-2011, 06:42 PM
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#7 | | World Superbike Champion
Joined: Feb 2011 From: Carlisle, PA Posts: 1,977 I Ride: 06 636 |
ya speedohealer will definitely help you out
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07-31-2011, 09:57 PM
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#8 | | Team Green
Joined: Jun 2011 From: Greenwood, IN Posts: 178 I Ride: 06 zx6r |
Clutch ups are much better, I still use stock gearing. I hear if you do -1 +2 it makes highway 60+ mph rides hell. Unless you plan to stunt I'd just do -1 on the front if anything. Oh and opt for the premium chain if you plan to put stress i.e. wheelies on it.
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08-01-2011, 07:19 AM
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#9 | | World Superbike Racer
Joined: Jun 2011 From: england Posts: 1,615 I Ride: zx6r 1997 streetfighter |
id go -1 only on front if you still wanting to do higher speed runs and it should still power wheelie but be careful
if you wanting to clutch it up then practise it will clutch up you just havent got the timing right yet
check out some you tube vides on wheelies and go easy
they will help you out
on my older zx6r (see pic <<<<<) it will wheelie with standard sprockets on as well as the -1 +6 on now but at 70 mph its doing 7000 rpm
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08-02-2011, 10:15 AM
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#10 | | Team Green
Joined: Jan 2011 From: Illinois Posts: 118 I Ride: 2007 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R |
Sounds like I may just keep my stock gearing to keep my high speed/gas mileage if I want, and just practice clutch ups. What does doing -1 front only do??
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08-03-2011, 02:52 PM
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#11 | | World Superbike Racer
Joined: Jun 2011 From: england Posts: 1,615 I Ride: zx6r 1997 streetfighter |
if you just -1 on the front (and put covers back on) no one will ever know, so you can kick ass.
you'll have a quicker pulling away speed top end wont be much different
and yea it will still wheelie
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08-03-2011, 11:31 PM
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#12 | | Team Green
Joined: May 2011 From: W by god V Posts: 206 I Ride: 2005 Six-Durty-6 dressed in blue with vortex sprockets -1 in front Yosh RS-5 aluminum exhaust |
check out gearingcommander.com itll help andyou can play around w a few ideas i ran 14/50 on my old 03 636 and it was buttery smooth still could hit 100+ no prob
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09-24-2011, 08:14 PM
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#13 | | Squid
Joined: Sep 2011 From: kentucky Posts: 16 I Ride: 08 zx6r candy plasma blue |
i got the -1 +2 with stock chain and its great top speed is about 154 and still highway speeds are not bad and i would suggest getting the healtech xtre and healtech speedohealer
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09-26-2011, 02:02 PM
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#14 | | World Superbike Racer
Joined: Jun 2011 From: england Posts: 1,615 I Ride: zx6r 1997 streetfighter |
although i dont break the speed limits "a good mate of mine" told me my bikes done 130mph and had more left in it but i was hanging on
i mean he was hanging on (no fairing etc)
revs higher with -1 +6 on it but still has it
when i done the charity ride it was standard gearing and would still clutch wheelie
its all down to good timing
was out the other day and had some really crap wheelies again i relised i was all wrong in clutch revs etc timing
practise
and cover the back brake
ps ... my mates not going on it again
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10-02-2011, 03:23 PM
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#15 | | Squid
Joined: Sep 2011 From: kentucky Posts: 16 I Ride: 08 zx6r candy plasma blue | update
well i bought the -1 +2 kit and didnt like it so i went new kit -1 +9 and hell yes that is it pulls like a liter bike love it now stuck with sprockets i dont need
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