huntfish247

i need to ask a honest question, i have an 03 ZX6R all stock..... ive popped my bike up a little before but im kinda learly about popping it up because i paid a lot for it and work hard for my money and just dont want to take a risk of turning it over.... any tips that would make it easier to pop it up and not have that fear in the back of my mind?

killzrain

it takes time to get used to it.. but protective cages for your bike take alot of that fear away.. my roomate finally did it and he isnt as scared to learn anymore..

PowerGroove

yup... don't do them. In 20+ years of sport bikes I can probably count the intentional wheelies on 2 hands. Hard landings will kill head bearings. You'll stretch chains faster, possibly blow forks seals easier... clutch will wear out faster. Many things that'll add up to MORE MONEY being spent even if you don't loop it.

Then there's the risk of flippin' yer baby on it's ass... hurting it pretty badly... or worse.. yourself.

So for me... I believe motorcycles were designed with 2 wheels for very good reasons. These bikes were designed to go fast and handle extremely well. Can they wheelie? Yes.... is that what they were designed to do? Nope...

That's my .02

That being said.... clutching up will be better for learning. Start slow.. .watch videos on youtube. Ask someone with experience some tips. and take your time. No hurry... again... 20+ years for me. I prefer 3 or 4 inch power wheelies myself.

Dani3l

i payed for my 08 cash and im to the point were i relize wheelies ar just dumb! there fun but your literally livin one wheel on the ground:/

NinjaRyder

I like wheelies... That being said, you do roll the dice every time you decide to go on one wheel- it really depends on how comfortable you feel about doing it. If you still have that fear of wrecking your bike I would probably wait until you get alittle more "willing" to have to pay for any "accidents" that may occur. Never know when your gonna roll those snake eyes!

killzrain

actually now that stunting has became so popular there are some designing factors they do take into consideration.

PowerGroove

True... but a production bike off of the showroom floor has one intention.

If you wanted to stunt the bike you're going to be modding it for that. There is no production super sport or liter bike that is built today that has ANY thought of stunting designed into it. It is what people such as yourself, that do stunt, do with the production bike that make it a stunt bike.

Other than that.... they're meant to go fast and turn.

But you are right... times are changing. But that being said... just like a street bike off of the showroom floor... they don't make specially designed dirt bikes made for trick riding. Those must be modded too. And trick motocross has been around for 10+ years now.

killzrain

freestyle riding has been around for a long time. street or dirt.. there have been changes, for instance, the oil pick up being in the back. most productions have made it this way bc of stunting. its a must have. most of your older bikes they are always closer to the front.

NuggetNik

Although I haven't started to do wheelies.... I do agree that they will end up fucking up your bike. The same as doing a full boar launch in a car... just becasue you can... dosen't mean you should though....

PowerGroove

oil pickup was moved to the back of modern sport bikes due to the acceleration keeping the oil to the rear of the sump. Had nothing to do with wheelies. Pulling 1.0 acceleration G's isn't gonna keep the oil sitting nicely in the pan... it's pretty much pushed up against the back of it.. lol.

But again... I'm not disagreeing with you. Simply stating that I would bet my life savings that the engineers at Kawi, Yamaha, Suzuki, Honda, etc... aren't taking stunting into consideration when designing a bike. They are looking for performance... since that is what 90% of the buyers of these things are after. And that 99% of the technology and design coming into dealer showrooms these days has trickled down from prior years race bikes and spec models... not so much stunting.

Nato

OP, please use the search button. there are many many many threads about wheelies and tips.

mtp

dont push it,
dont go to hard or fast,
and cover the rear brake.
if its comming up to fast or snappy brake and roll off the revs
if you not sure dont do it at all .

apart from that you in the right section for learning how to........
have a search and get some vids posted lol.

have fun but be safe

firechicken

if i pop mine up in first i like to get a nice roll going then rev it up a few times into the righer rpms(kinda flutter it) then i drop the clutch, ive only been popping wheelies for a couple months, its scary but just do it! its the only way to learn