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post #16 of 37 Old 04-25-2014, 02:13 PM
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post #17 of 37 Old 04-25-2014, 02:26 PM
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well.... i just got my bike recently and haven't even gotten comfortable with normal riding yet, so take my words however you want. i have however rode ATV's or four wheelers as they are called where i am from for over 10 years. i can "bear walk" my four wheeler at 30 in 4th for an indefinite amount of time. pulling a wheelie is about the point at which you release the clutch in the power band (point of high torque) of the engine and the wheel speed you are at when you start and end engaging the clutch (having enough difference in the two speeds to raise the bike) just as important is weight transfer to the rear wheel in order to have the traction there to leverage the whole bike and yourself. weight movement backwards at the correct time of clutch engagement is extremely helpful in beginning the weight shift towards the rear; loading the rear and unloading the front end, helping powering up through this sticking point your running into.
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Thanks everyone...I used to do wheelies on my ATV but since i started riding sport bikes i stopped , guess i was too scared , but now i'm back at it again..

I don't want to change the gearing , because the bike can do it the way it , i just want to know how to shift my weight to the back , or if there is anything i'm doing wrong..

Thanks, i keep loosing traction , so that's what i'm looking to stop

& thanks for everyone's feedback , good or bad since you took the time to answer lol

Ride safe, i guess i'm stubborn when it comes to wheelies

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You could have too much weight on your bars from being tense. Maybe you pull yourself into the bike as it comes up. You may be rolling off throttle when youre coming up. These were my issues when learning. Relax and ride like youre just cruising. Wear gear and prepare to drop your bike, just being realistic... actually if you dont skip steps you might never fall...

In first around 20-30mph or second 30-40 roll on the throttle quickly like youre passing someone. A split second later, slip the clutch with one finger. The bike will pop up and give more throttle to bring it higher. Start small and take baby steps, build muscle memory with the back brake, use it everytime to bring it down whether youre a few inches or 12 o clock. I practice wheelies on my mountain bike and used to always loop but began using back brake everytime and now i never loop.

You should start by popping little miserable wheelies. Then begin to chase them out, again back brake. Then give it more throttle to pop it higher quicker and one day youll get to balance point.

Learn on a dirt bike if you can, it will teach you not to look at your tachometer amd go by feel and won't cost so much if you drop it.Practice riding and pulling the clutch to slip point, your rpms should raise a little. It takes getting used to, maybe start pulling the clutch in with ine finger when you come to stop signs. But dont listen to me im still a wheelie noob and ive looped twice
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Thanks everyone...I used to do wheelies on my ATV but since i started riding sport bikes i stopped , guess i was too scared , but now i'm back at it again..

I don't want to change the gearing , because the bike can do it the way it , i just want to know how to shift my weight to the back , or if there is anything i'm doing wrong..

Thanks, i keep loosing traction , so that's what i'm looking to stop

& thanks for everyone's feedback , good or bad since you took the time to answer lol

Ride safe, i guess i'm stubborn when it comes to wheelies
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These links will provide you with some excellent advice. Watch it several times, then go practice on a closed course. Somwhere.

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keep it in 1st gear and try it
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Yes it's a closed course and i have all my gear from head to toe, i do have enough riding experience

Plus i have a couple of friends always around to watch out just in case anything does happen.
Sounds like you need a bigger dose of VIAGRA
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I know this might not help at all but my zx10r just comes right up when I throttle through in first gear. I got started wheelies on a Suzuki katana. To get over the fear just keep bringing it up as much as u can to get use to landing smooth eventually it will just happen for ya. Good luck.

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Get yourself a cheap little dirt bike that you don't care if you throw it down the street or through the dirt. Start on that get used to the feeling of the front end going up feeling balance crashing and saving it from crashing. Its alot easier and cheaper to bend the handlebars back on crf150 then it is to buy new parts for your 2014. The money you pay for a cheapo used dirt bike will be less then one OEM part on your bike. Just my .02 that I say to everyone learning wheelies.


O yea and learning on your bike be prepared to be in some pain when you get scared and slam the front end down. Your nuts getting rocked on the tank sucks really bad trust me. Its even worse when you have to stop and cry for a minute and while you are holding onto your family jewels in stupid pain you realize you just blew your fork seals while wrecking your nuts on the tank.

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Flick the throttle back like you're changing gears when quick shifting. Pull in the clutch, build the revs in the engine (sometimes it takes more than 2 seconds, my best wheelies I hold and build the torque for 4 seconds), release/flick the clutch.

Use 1 finger on the clutch. Learn to sit back in the seat. Keep your weight on your feet, not your ass.

Wheelies ain't quick to learn. Took me weeks if not months.

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post #30 of 37 Old 05-18-2014, 08:14 AM
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your clutch and throttle need to be sync and try doing it in first. another thing I've noticed and started doing as u r about to pop the clutch tap the back brake till u feel ur self a little slow and release all together should shoot u right up but be careful not to fall or swing straight back remember cover ur back brake!!!! another thing the slower u are the higher it gets!!
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