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post #16 of 30 Old 04-14-2016, 05:40 AM
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I am jealous...cuz the one time I did a real wheelie, it didn't end well.

So yeah, I was just trolling...don't listen to me...12K rpm is probably not the way to go...but feel free to try it yourself
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I haven't really seen any hate here...from what I have seen ZX6R.com tends to be a lot more tolerant of other riding styles than any other forum I have come across, but I digress.


So, I am making a concerted effort to learn how to wheelie this season with only one goal in mind: I want to be able to ride a wheelie across the finish line at my local track without embarrassing myself (or worse, losing the race due to stupidity).

I am coming out of an ultra-tight 2nd gear left hander and the finish line is about 1/4 mile away. I have to catch 3rd pretty quickly and I am probably in the meat of 4th when I cross the line.

So, the questions that I have:

Am I better off learning to do 1st gear clutch ups and then work into something like this?

Is it even possible to do a clutch up between 3rd and 4th at around 90mph on these bikes?

Stand up or sit down? (remember, race bike. no passenger pegs).

I think that covers the basics =)
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I haven't really seen any hate here...from what I have seen ZX6R.com tends to be a lot more tolerant of other riding styles than any other forum I have come across, but I digress.


So, I am making a concerted effort to learn how to wheelie this season with only one goal in mind: I want to be able to ride a wheelie across the finish line at my local track without embarrassing myself (or worse, losing the race due to stupidity).

I am coming out of an ultra-tight 2nd gear left hander and the finish line is about 1/4 mile away. I have to catch 3rd pretty quickly and I am probably in the meat of 4th when I cross the line.

So, the questions that I have:

Am I better off learning to do 1st gear clutch ups and then work into something like this?

Is it even possible to do a clutch up between 3rd and 4th at around 90mph on these bikes?

Stand up or sit down? (remember, race bike. no passenger pegs).

I think that covers the basics =)
I think to do it correctly and look cool a sit down in 3rd or 4th will do with a clutch up. Stand ups are easier. I'm no expert. I have only done 2 wheelies in my life, both by riding like a dumb ass, giving it too much throttle in 1st. That was on a modified XR650L. Damn... I miss that bike... I am sure when you do wheelies you will do them amazingly, just like you race. You are so talented. You can't stop talent ever. You're a perfect example of that. I can't wait to see the video.
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most pics i see of motogp riders are them standing, i would assume it helps, your body catches air and acts to drag, helps shit weight rearward, id have to beleive they have enough power that a clutch up could be done. quick pump, drop the clutch, use the air against your body to drag the bike up.

i dunno, thoughts from the brainplace. i have yet to do a wheelie, accidentially or otherwise. mostly just observations
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Tell me the wheelie doesn't look badass when you're standing up. Whatever gear you can get the power and comfortably clutch it up smoothly is the gear you can do it in. It helps if you have a little torque in the powerband to keep the wheelie up. But if you're in the meat of the power you can control it with smooth throttle and find the balance point. Finding the balance point is the main focus.
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I have a buddy who has a drone so I will shoot some video and post it if I can figure that out. Just so you guys know I'm not talking s***. It's really not that hard. But like I said before it isn't that hard to go over backwards either
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Slo, this is how I envision myself doing a wheelie across the finish line...which is why I'm scared to do it lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h8ubg_yWxw
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Ha, I meant to do that - Pee-wee Herman.
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Slo, this is how I envision myself doing a wheelie across the finish line...which is why I'm scared to do it lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h8ubg_yWxw
Me too, which is why I am hesitant to try :-p but I only live once, and I am nearing the end of my racing career anyway :-p
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which is why I'm scared to do it lol
Living in fear is not living. For reals.
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It's not that sort of fear though...it's the embarrassment that I would have to forever deal with if it goes wrong in front of so many people I know. Trust me...already been through that with my 1st and only true wheelie Crashed it at work during lunch break, within 48 hours of buying the bike, brand new! My old boss still gives me shit for that and it's been almost 5 years!!

And it would be an expensive wheelie without a good reason if it goes wrong ....maybe I'll try it on the back straightaway where nobody but the corner workers can see me!
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It's not that sort of fear though...it's the embarrassment that I would have to forever deal with if it goes wrong in front of so many people I know. Trust me...already been through that with my 1st and only true wheelie Crashed it at work during lunch break, within 48 hours of buying the bike, brand new! My old boss still gives me shit for that and it's been almost 5 years!!

And it would be an expensive wheelie without a good reason if it goes wrong ....maybe I'll try it on the back straightaway where nobody but the corner workers can see me!
I understand what you are saying.
A buddy of mine did that into a stand full of Carne Asada. Epic funny stuff you can't make up. Of course it was off site and I don't think he was embarrassed, everyone was just laughing because of what happened. It was a burnout,followed by the wheelie,then carne asada in the air lol.
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I understand what you are saying.
A buddy of mine did that into a stand full of Carne Asada. Epic funny stuff you can't make up. Of course it was off site and I don't think he was embarrassed, everyone was just laughing because of what happened. It was a burnout,followed by the wheelie,then carne asada in the air lol.
That makes me hungry for a Carne Asada burrito from D'Leons!
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Alright everyone I appreciate all the help . I went riding today and unfortunately the GoPro was left on so it was dead lol. I didn't practice too much clutch ups due to the wind . I tried a few times raising the rpms a bit higher still don't think I got em high enough . The 05 636 when it first gets going doesn't have much torque it's almost as if it doesn't respond until you hit like 7rpms then it shoots like a bullet which is I'm assuming maybe why I'm having more difficulty here . I am going to keep practicing . i like doing the power wheelies but I do think they are a little more dangerous seeing that I snap it at around 30 and look down next thing you know I'm at 70 mph lol. Once I get footage I will post it up . Also damn FI light came on . It was in a while back due to the aftermarket exhaust I believe I just have to reset it again I'm thinking that's why it came back on just the exhaust but I'm going to work on it tommorow to see whatsup because it's running exactly the same it just popped up as I was riding out of no where .
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