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2016 ZX636 - Lowered Wheelies

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#1 ·
What up everyone! Alright, I'm rocking a 2016 zx636. One gear down in the front, stock rear sprocket. Bike lowered 2 inches or so front and rear.
Learning these wheelies, and I'm in second gear going about 40 mph @ 6k rpm. I'll rev to about 8-9k and pop the clutch but the wheel still
only pops up a little. If i sit back a tiny bit it comes up a little easier but it sketches me out sitting back that far. Also sketched out revving past 10k just to get the bike up. Got a few questions.

How high should I have to rev to get that sucker airborn?
I'm doing sitdowns right now, and want to know if using two fingers on the clutch is acceptable. One finger gets tiring quickly.
Tire pressure. I'm running 190 Q3s. Lower to 34 rear for good contact patch?
Easier to learn sitdown or start learning staggered with one foot on rear peg?
Anything else? Thanks!
 
#4 ·
Guessing here a bit but.... If you've essentially lowered the bike's center of gravity, it may require more torque to get the front wheel to come up vs a normal non-lowered bike. Do you have traction control on while you're doing this? If so, turn it off and then try. Should make it easier
 
#6 ·
Just trying to get a feel for what other people have had success with before I really push it. Traction control is off. It just takes a surprising amount of throttle to get it up. I hopped on an R6 without a slipper clutch and it flew up at like 8k rpm clutch out. So I'm comparing apples to oranges but still hesitant.
 
#9 ·
You don't really need much to bring it up in 2nd gead. On 2nd gear I can stay steady at 6k rpms and then pull the clutch and flick it out with a little throttle and I can hold a wheelie for awhile. It just takes practice over and over again to see how much throttle to put. Since your bike is lowered, I already know that you have to give it more gas in between slipping the clutch to bring it up. Btw I have a 2015. Let me know if you need more advice I can help ya
 
#11 ·
Iam no stunter in any means but, but I did try wheelie, seem like practice is key, also more balls, next time hold clutch in for 2secs and dump it. I will hate to drop mine so I avoid stunts
 
#12 ·
Sooner or later you will fuck up. If you don't believe me ask THUG. He knows what happens when you go over. Get a dirtbike and practice wheelies. When you get to the balance point on a wheelie, there is less room for error than when you are on your way up. Trust me, I am very proficent at wheelies. Dirt, street, whatevers. I have seen and heard many wheelies gone bad. A 2016 isn't really worth throwing down the road unless you have a couple of them. But then, what Do I know anyway.
 
#14 ·
I'd definitely learn on something else first. You don't want to be "that guy" that yard sales his brand new bike.
But if you're determined, dont be afraid to sit further back. The lip to the rear seat will hold you.
You need to be higher than 8k to get up and set it down wheel straight so you don't tank slap....or get a stabilizer
 
#15 ·
Im getting into wheelie i started of doing sit downs and stagerd stand ups are a lot better i thing. Easer to do and ballance. They feel weird amd scary but after practice youll be popin them for fun. Just practice. Ive got -1 +2 i do about 30 in 5k ish stand up and just rev and lean back and she stands right up :) the feeling is intense
 
#16 ·
If you're determined to learn to wheelie then just go out and keep doing what you're doing but keep increasing the rpm's until it comes up. This was my first street bike but I've ridden dirt all my life so wheelies were easy to carry over. Don't look at the rpms. Just go out and go by engine sound and add more throttle until it comes up but make damn sure you're covering the rear brake and know how to use it and react after you use it to bring it back down. I think the throttle is a better tool to control the height of the front end but it becomes second nature after a while. When you jam on the rear brak in a panic to stop a wheelie it's not a soft landing. It's gonna come down hard so he prepared. You can slowly drop the front end with throttle control or at least it's the way I like to do it if I get the itch to do a wheelie but it's not worth the tickets or crashing to me aymore. Just once in a while I'll rip it up on the street.
 
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