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I put most of the information in the video description on Youtube.
Evaluate, learn from my bad choices & mistakes. Most of all, wear gear.
Shit happens, and it can happen really fast.

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Yikes! Again? I know the last one was a lowside, off an embankment... but YIKES!
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Hope everyone is okay and you can get the bike repaired.

I've made the same mistake, and crashed. There are always way too many variables on the road (gravel, ice, cars, animals, unexpected stops, traffic going over the line . . . etc). Now I keep higher speeds at the track, and ride reasonably (or within condition limits) on the street, not that I'm implying that you aren't but rather that accidents are costly and preventable by a simple decrease in speed.
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I put most of the information in the video description on Youtube.
Evaluate, learn from my bad choices & mistakes. Most of all, wear gear.
Shit happens, and it can happen really fast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmMy7FoF_ho
Fixed for mobile users. Insurance is gonna get pissed if they keep having to buy you motorcycles lol. At least you're okay.
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Glad you are ok. That is all that matters.
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1. Glad you are ok

2. Because you dedicated an entire paragraph to not knowing what the problem was under the video...you just jumped on the rear brake and gave it way too much. Go to a (clean) parking lot and just practice emergency braking with the front brake (from like 20-30 mph). Just keep doing it till you can romp on the front brake into baby stoppies as you come to a stop and be comfortable with it. No one does this. Everyone should. Might save your life one day because I didn't see any reason you couldn't have come to a stop behind that car in front without leaving your lane.
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^^ The trick with getting the most out of the front is to wait to apply full pressure, until weight transfer has completed. You can't just stab the brake.... you have to squeeze it to full pressure, over most of a second to get the bike to compress the fork and maximize traction on the front wheel.
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^^ The trick with getting the most out of the front is to wait to apply full pressure, until weight transfer has completed. You can't just stab the brake.... you have to squeeze it to full pressure, over most of a second to get the bike to compress the fork and maximize traction on the front wheel.
Yup and that's probably 50% of what you are learning when you practice emergency braking. The initial grab needs to be fast+smooth and when you first try it, trying to grab it fast will be jerky. It takes practice to grab the brakes quickly but smoothly. Plus, whatever the initial pressure you are applying the brakes to has to just be ingrained into muscle memory. 1 second is pretty fast to get to maximum braking, if you have time to think about squeezing it more or less you are taking too long to get there. Then once you pass that stage it is just modulating the pressure from there to keep it at maximum braking. Which is the other half of the learning curve.

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Honest question here Goatfather - how much time do you spend practicing emergency stops?
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Honest question here Goatfather - how much time do you spend practicing emergency stops?
Honestly I have not dedicated practice to braking in about 2 years. Except for the occasional scrub here and there when riding. So as soon as I read the above comments I just nodded my head and frowned at myself. Definitely a good set of points brought up. Gives me plenty to reflect on.
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Honestly I have not dedicated practice to braking in about 2 years. Except for the occasional scrub here and there when riding. So as soon as I read the above comments I just nodded my head and frowned at myself. Definitely a good set of points brought up. Gives me plenty to reflect on.
I did a similar thing, spent a couple years riding and never practiced an emergency stop. Had a close call one day then went to a parking lot to practice the next. It was hugely educational for me and I just remember thinking holy crap I can brake so much harder than I thought!
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Honest question here Goatfather - how much time do you spend practicing emergency stops?
I do this constantly in my neighborhood. Figure its the best place for me.
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If you ever lock up your rear brake...DO NOT get off of it, just try and maintain the front in a straight line, like when we were kids and slid our bikes in the gravel just for fun. Like they say, if you love something let it go...if it comes back, it means you high-sided!
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Honestly I have not dedicated practice to braking in about 2 years. Except for the occasional scrub here and there when riding. So as soon as I read the above comments I just nodded my head and frowned at myself. Definitely a good set of points brought up. Gives me plenty to reflect on.
Professional development would be ideal....... get an expert to observe and advise........
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