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Old 11-16-2009, 08:15 PM   #1
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ZX6r to ZX10r motor swap or help with turbo

I have recently purchased an 07 ZX6R and im not thrilled with it. The story is I had an 06 gixxer 1000 and I sold it last summer because of financial problems, now im finally getting back on my feet so I purchased the zx6 thinking that at least having a bike would make me happy and it doesnt. Just curious on if and how or who to contact I would like to put a zx10r motor in. Will it fit? How much will cost be after purchasing motor? Who can do the fabricating (im in muncie Indiana)? Or how do I build a turbo or who can build me a turbo for cheap? Please help i need the power back.
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:21 PM   #2
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No offense, but it sounds like a waste of effort. Why not just sell it and buy a 10R?
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:40 PM   #3
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None takin but im sure it would be much cheaper for motor and also insurance purposes and also would like a sleeper. But i have given it some thought but seems cheaper thiis way. I only purchased it for $2800, so i figure another $1500 would give me a super nice ride
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dont even try to put the 10r engine in there. its completely different mounting points. the 6r frame is also not designed to hold it. Turboing a zx6 will not produce noticeable (comparabel to a liter bike) power with out SERIOUS motor work (and money).

Your cheapest bet is to sell the 6 and get a liter bike
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:51 PM   #5
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ive done some research and a built a turbo for a stock 6 and it got him into the 150s range. No joke. May not be as much power as a 1000 put damn big difference, and as far as frame i think it would be very stable enough for the power ZX10 put out. I appreciate the advice man
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Old 11-16-2009, 09:02 PM   #6
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ive done some research and a built a turbo for a stock 6 and it got him into the 150s range. No joke. May not be as much power as a 1000 put damn big difference, and as far as frame i think it would be very stable enough for the power ZX10 put out. I appreciate the advice man
not sure what you you mean by "stock" 6, but 50% horsepower increase without engine work is not safe and short lasting.

Get a 10, you wont be disappointed
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Old 11-16-2009, 09:17 PM   #7
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unless you have the smarts, equipment, physical ability, and time to do the work yourself, it will NOT be cheaper. Also, with regard to the insurance purposes comment, swapping motors does not mean you can tell your insurance company it's a 6 because it started out that way. That's this thing called insurance fraud and it is not taken lightly.
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Old 11-17-2009, 04:45 AM   #8
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if you're getting 50% more power, there HAS to be work done to the bottom end to compensate for the extra boost. Otherwise you strip the keys off the timing gears and bend connecting rods. I wouldn't put more than 5-7 psi through a stock bottom end, and you're only going to see about a 10%~ish hp gain through that bit of boost.

what about a bore/stroke kit? Yeah, it's a lot of work and not cheep, but it'll last you longer than abusing your piston rings like inmates at guantanamo, and stressing the valve train that hard. Besides, when the boost from the turbo blows the head right off the bike, think about where all those little pieces of sharp metal go...

I'm not saying don't do it, I'm saying do it right. If you're looking for 150+ hp out of a 600cc bike, you're going to have to build up the bottom end. There's just no way around it.
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:16 AM   #9
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dollar wise it would be best to sell the zx6 and buy a zx10, the zx10 motor mounts is way different than the zx6r motor so your def going to run into some problem there, turbo a bike is not cheap but if your mechanical incline you could save some money & have one sleeper !
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also another suggestion if your nt happy with the HP you have already is NOS, a nice 20-30 shot will hold up just fine on stock internals if tune correctly & will be way cheaper than a motor swap or turbo
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Old 11-18-2009, 08:00 AM   #11
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nos is only good for q/m runs as it doesnt last long (just a few secs , and i dont see the engine blowing off if you just give it 4 to 6 psi boost as long as fuelling is good , Bazzaz does a system that you run the engine and it tells you if you need to rich or lean so its very good to use with a turbo as for the internals i use to run 5psi on my car with normal pistons (not forged like on the bike ) and they last as long as fuelling is good .On a good flowwing head (like on a bike you can easily get 10bhp for every 1psi boost ) on cars we have seen up to 20bhp for every 1psi (thats on a 1.8ltr Honda integra ) so if i were you i would go for it but remember the important thing is FUELLING have that wrong and bye bye pistons
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IMO safest is to go with a ZX10 or another litre bike, also the safest option.
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:32 PM   #13
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Each to their own, but given things like the Isle of Man, which is a better approximation to the roads most of us ride on most of the time, where the 600s are averaging only 5 mph less for a lap than the litre bikes I think a 600 is plenty good enough. And given most of us aren't John McGuinness etc, a 600 would more than likely get us around the TT faster. In support of this theory I think some thorough experimentation should be undertaken. As it was my idea I'll reluctantly undergo the research. I'll look forward to your continuing sponsorship of this important work.
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Each to their own, but given things like the Isle of Man, which is a better approximation to the roads most of us ride on most of the time, where the 600s are averaging only 5 mph less for a lap than the litre bikes I think a 600 is plenty good enough. And given most of us aren't John McGuinness etc, a 600 would more than likely get us around the TT faster. In support of this theory I think some thorough experimentation should be undertaken. As it was my idea I'll reluctantly undergo the research. I'll look forward to your continuing sponsorship of this important work.
This is a very good point - it's not what you ride but how you ride it.

I think the thread starter wants to go faster in a straight line though
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just get your sprockets done lol
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