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post #1 of 15 Old 12-29-2011, 04:03 PM Thread Starter
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Slipper Clutch on a G1

Ok, before the world chimes in and gives me the business about there not being a slipper clutch on
a G1 - I'm looking at the potential ability for there to be one installed.

So here's what we know:
STM, Sigma & Yoyodyne all make a slipper clutch for the

ZX6R 2005-2006

Barnett says the following bikes need the following plates for their clutches

.........................Friction (Qty.)......Steel Plates (Qty.)....Spring Kits
1995-99 ZX6R......301-70-10035(9)...401-45-089011(8)....501-50-04116

2000-02 ZX6R......301-70-10035(9)...401-45-063011(8)....501-50-04116

2005-06 ZX6RR.....301-70-10035(8)..401-45-063011(*)....501-58-06121
.................................................. .401-45-078011(*)
.................................................. .401-45-089011(*)
*As Required **Re-use OEM Double Steel Plate

So if you're paying attention thus far these three generations have the same clutch with the only difference
being the number of plates and the springs (for 2005-2006 - Willing to bet this is due to the springs being shorter).

Sooooooo... does this mean the slipper clutch from the 2005-2006 ZX6RR can be installed on the G1 & J1
(brief pause while we wait for EvilTwin to respond)

Or is there also some difference in the tranny that makes it possible to use this clutch (I bet that answer is no)?

(Why do I want to do this you ask - easy, I'm bored )

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post #2 of 15 Old 12-29-2011, 04:11 PM
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they might use the same plates etc but im pretty sure the basket etc will be a different fit.

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Yeah that just occured to me as well, but I don't know if that really matters actually. Reason being - the slipper clutch sits inside the clutch basket, and actually inside the the inner diameter of the clutch plates. So in theory it should fit since the plates are the same. I think then the real question is the size and thread of the drive shaft on the three generation bikes.

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I'm putting one in an 03 636. I found the outer basket was the same for 03-06 rr & 636. The clutch/output shaft length is the limiting factor, so put a slipper one in and then the inner slipper basket+plates. I eyeballed (counted a lot of outer basket teeth) and compared part#'s.
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I'm putting one in an 03 636. I found the outer basket was the same for 03-06 rr & 636. The clutch/output shaft length is the limiting factor, so put a slipper one in and then the inner slipper basket+plates. I eyeballed (counted a lot of outer basket teeth) and compared part#'s.
Sweet, so I'm right the question is the shaft not the basket. Thanks for the answer to that Green. Now I just need to determine if the shaft is different on the 99 from the 05-06 rr.

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can i just ask ....why do you feel like you want a slipper clutch for road use ?
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Fair question... lol
I actually have no real use for it on the road.

But until I rebuild this second zx6r sitting in my garage
this bike will be pulling double duty as a track & street bike.

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ok fair enough.....just thought it was an over kill for the street but for the track its the ticket
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I'm putting one in an 03 636. I found the outer basket was the same for 03-06 rr & 636. The clutch/output shaft length is the limiting factor, so put a slipper one in and then the inner slipper basket+plates. I eyeballed (counted a lot of outer basket teeth) and compared part#'s.
the 03/04 basket has a different number of teeth than the 05/06... they don't interchange.

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That's why I've said above you count the outer basket teeth. They do mesh even if they are different, just not as well. I used the 03 rr baskets.
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************************** This Breaking News *******************************

Investigators have found that the Input shaft
(That thing your clutch basket and more important to this news cast, your Clutch Hub is secured to)
on the 98-98 G1 and the 05-06 RR are in fact...

(Wait for it)

DIFFERENT!!!!

However, our investigators are finding that the differences again potentially
don't affect the ability to mount the Clutch Hub from a 05-06RR to a 98-99 G1. Reason:

The portion of the shaft that the Clutch Hub attaches to just so happens to be 20mm on both generations.
So now the race is on to see if infact the clutch from a 05-06RR will work on a 98-99G1.

I'm your reporter Know-Nothing Doolittle signing off.

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Sounds like a good upgrade if ur going track and road I thought they were only best used on big v twins


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Did you get any further with this mate? Looking for similar as my G1 is also doing double duty

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Hi my bike has this mod fitted the only thing I've found as I have just put some more plates in is that the original clutch shaft what goes through the casing has been modified ie a slot cut in it which is not the best as it looks like it hasn't been catching properly so I'm thinking about putting the casing and shaft of a 05 bike would this work.
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