Need opinions regarding HID's?This is a discussion on Need opinions regarding HID's? within the The ZX6R forums, part of the ZX6R Forum category; I recently started another thread pertaining to HID's and I'm trying to decide whether just to change the bulbs out of my current setup to ...  |
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01-17-2012, 06:24 PM
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#1 | | Squid
Joined: Oct 2011 From: Orlando, FL Posts: 80 I Ride: 2011 zx6r lime green | Need opinions regarding HID's?
I recently started another thread pertaining to HID's and I'm trying to decide whether just to change the bulbs out of my current setup to something with a lower kelvin rating (4300-5000k) or just get a whole new kit from DDMtuning. The lights that are on there now are too blue for my taste, hence the reason for me wanting to change to a whiter light with more light output. I have attached a picture of the ballast that is currently on the bike. I'm not sure if there is an identical one on the other side of the bike to power the other bulb or if the one powers both the low and high beam.
Seeing how it's rated for 35w, I'm considering ordering the whole 55w kit from DDM seeing how it's only $40, in the hopes of getting even better output that the 55w setup would offer. What are your opinions on this please? Should I just replace the bulbs, or should I just go ahead and opt for the whole entire 55w kit? Anyone know if the Hella ballasts are any better or worse than the ones supplied with DDM's kit?
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01-17-2012, 07:39 PM
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#2 | | Pro Racer
Joined: Dec 2011 From: TORONTO Posts: 787 I Ride: 06 ninja zx6r |
You should buy the 55w thats what i got they are SUPPERRR BRIGHT and i am running them at 8000k they are a little blue but not to much and DDM tuning are the best hids bulbs i live in canada and had to pay international shipping and customs was about 100 doollars but was so worth it the quality is great i would say go for the 6000k if u wanted something white and super bright but 8000k's are the brightest !
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01-17-2012, 07:42 PM
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#3 | | Pro Racer
Joined: Dec 2011 From: TORONTO Posts: 787 I Ride: 06 ninja zx6r |
and about high beams and low beams it doesnt really matter cause they are super bright dont bother wasting a extra 10 bucks for high and low beam option they wont be needed
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01-17-2012, 08:23 PM
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#4 | | Squid
Joined: Oct 2011 From: Orlando, FL Posts: 80 I Ride: 2011 zx6r lime green | Quote:
Originally Posted by brar and about high beams and low beams it doesnt really matter cause they are super bright dont bother wasting a extra 10 bucks for high and low beam option they wont be needed | Not sure exactly what you mean by this, but this is the kit I'm thinking of getting. HID Kits, BMW Aftermarket Bumpers & Lighting, DEPO - DDM Tuning |
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01-17-2012, 08:33 PM
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#5 | | Squid
Joined: Oct 2011 From: Orlando, FL Posts: 80 I Ride: 2011 zx6r lime green |
And, how is it that just a pair of OEM halogen headlamp bulbs cost over 50 bucks , while a whole HID kit can be had for under that?
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01-17-2012, 08:45 PM
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#6 | | Squid
Joined: Dec 2011 From: Wilson NC Posts: 75 I Ride: 09 Candy Surf Blue | Quote:
Originally Posted by naked6 And, how is it that just a pair of OEM halogen headlamp bulbs cost over 50 bucks , while a whole HID kit can be had for under that? | key word OEM lol
DDM kits work great in my experience, got a set in my car going strong after 2 years
also the 09+ bikes use 2 different bulbs H9 and H11, not sure if that matters since i havnt got a kit yet
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01-17-2012, 09:01 PM
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#7 | | Track Star
Joined: Jan 2012 From: Orlando, FL Posts: 255 I Ride: zxSICr |
Is it h9 for running and h11 for regular hi/low beam
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01-17-2012, 09:22 PM
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#8 | | Squid
Joined: Oct 2011 From: Orlando, FL Posts: 80 I Ride: 2011 zx6r lime green | Quote:
Originally Posted by deadazleep key word OEM lol
DDM kits work great in my experience, got a set in my car going strong after 2 years
also the 09+ bikes use 2 different bulbs H9 and H11, not sure if that matters since i havnt got a kit yet | It is my understanding that they are both H11 bulb types with the HID kit. Someone corrrect me if I'm wrong.
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01-18-2012, 02:06 PM
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#9 | | Pro Racer
Joined: Dec 2011 From: TORONTO Posts: 787 I Ride: 06 ninja zx6r | Quote:
Originally Posted by naked6 | What i mean is some of the bulbs u can get it so they are high beam and low beam it cost 15-20 bucks more and also 55watt cost 10 bucks more but i do recomend that furshure no point getting high beam and loow beam u are going to waste your money
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01-18-2012, 05:25 PM
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#10 | | Squid
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 28 |
What did you think of the output of the lights, other than too blue? Was it much better than the stock light? The reason I ask. I run a 07 zzr6, stock headlights are 55/60 watt bulbs, but I was thinking of going to a 35 watt, 6000k, hid kit. Wasn't sure if I would see much of an improvement over stock or would I be better off going to a 55 watt kit. Not sure if the 55s might not run too hot as both are on all the time the bike runs.
Any information or opinions would be appreciated. thanks
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01-18-2012, 05:50 PM
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#11 | | MotoGP Champion
Joined: May 2011 From: Bakerspatch Posts: 3,277 I Ride: '09 ZX6R |
A 35w HID will be much brighter than a 65w non HID. The H9/H11 is simply the tabs on the bulb and how they fit into the base when you swap them out. I wouldn't go with a 65w HID as you run the risk of getting some of the electrical system drawing too many amps. Amps are what fry things... not watts.
I'm runnin 35w 6000k
An 8000k bulb is NO BRIGHTER... just more BLUE in color. The whitest are 6000k.
Hope that helps!
By the way I'm running Speed Metal HID's
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01-19-2012, 08:49 PM
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#12 | | Superbike Champion
Joined: Sep 2010 From: NJ Posts: 1,060 I Ride: 09 space-ship | Quote:
Originally Posted by PowerGroove A 35w HID will be much brighter than a 65w non HID. The H9/H11 is simply the tabs on the bulb and how they fit into the base when you swap them out. I wouldn't go with a 65w HID as you run the risk of getting some of the electrical system drawing too many amps. Amps are what fry things... not watts.
I'm runnin 35w 6000k
An 8000k bulb is NO BRIGHTER... just more BLUE in color. The whitest are 6000k.
Hope that helps!
By the way I'm running Speed Metal HID's | PG,is that jeff bridges "the dude", in your prof pic?lol
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01-19-2012, 10:26 PM
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#13 | | Squid
Joined: Nov 2011 From: CT Posts: 19 | Quote:
Originally Posted by illrational Is it h9 for running and h11 for regular hi/low beam | No, you're a little confused. "Running lights," or parking lights are the little 194 bulbs to the left and right of each headlight. The 09'+ zx6r has an H11 bulb for low-beam and an H9 bulb for its high-beam.
Personally, I did the "H9 upgrade" to mine and I couldn't be happier. Shit ton more light on the road running a H9 bulb in place of the H11, and I don't have to have ballasts and wires everywhere hanging off my bike. Plus, I can flick the high-beam at inattentive drivers when I'm coming up to an intersection. Running HID's in both headlamps, you would lose that capability as flicking HID's on/off rapidly will ruin them.
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01-20-2012, 09:37 PM
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#14 | | Squid
Joined: Oct 2011 From: Orlando, FL Posts: 80 I Ride: 2011 zx6r lime green | Quote:
Originally Posted by CTninja No, you're a little confused. "Running lights," or parking lights are the little 194 bulbs to the left and right of each headlight. The 09'+ zx6r has an H11 bulb for low-beam and an H9 bulb for its high-beam.
Personally, I did the "H9 upgrade" to mine and I couldn't be happier. Shit ton more light on the road running a H9 bulb in place of the H11, and I don't have to have ballasts and wires everywhere hanging off my bike. Plus, I can flick the high-beam at inattentive drivers when I'm coming up to an intersection. Running HID's in both headlamps, you would lose that capability as flicking HID's on/off rapidly will ruin them. | CTninja, or anyone else in the know. Can you please elaborate more on the H9 upgrade? So, if I run H9 bulbs on both sides, will it be like having two high beams? One of the previous posters mentioned the only difference is the tabs between the two. Will I need to order two single kits, one with an H9 bulb and the other with a H11 bulb, or just one kit with identical bulbs? Sorry for the newb questions.
edit... ok I just saw in another thread that apparently for HID kits, H9 and H11 bulbs are the same thing. So, can someone please tell me how the high beam is accomplished with an HID setup if both bulbs are identical?
Last edited by naked6; 01-20-2012 at 09:47 PM.
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01-20-2012, 10:58 PM
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#15 | | Track Star
Joined: Sep 2010 From: Moultrie, Ga Posts: 485 I Ride: 2009 ZX-6R |
H9 and H11 are NOT the same thing. There's a few differences. The halogen H9 is a 65w bulb, where the halogen H11 is a 55w bulb. Also the tabs that seat the bulb in the headlight housing and the plugs are different for the H9 and H11.
To do the HID swap for a 09+ model 6r, you will need to get two single bulb HID kits. You can get either 35w or 55w. You will need a H9 and a H11 HID kit to make things plug and play. Otherwise, you will have to do a lot of wire cutting and bulb/housing modification to make things work.
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