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post #16 of 164 Old 05-15-2012, 03:45 PM Thread Starter
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Would the interface mess with an existing speedohealer? like if I JUST wanted the plug and play late model clock, would I just not program the speedohealer part?
If you have a speedo healer fitted then you would need to set it to 1:1 (no conversion). Or if you felt inclined then remove it completely.

The reason for this is that for the new gauge to display the gear correctly, it needs to know (via the adapter) the actual engine rpm and final drive speed at the output of the gearbox. Since speedo healer changes the output speed signal to make the clocks read correctly, then it would falsify the gear calcs.

The adapter has a speed correction function, but this is applied after the un-molested engine signals have been used to work out the gearbox gear.

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If you have a speedo healer fitted then you would need to set it to 1:1 (no conversion). Or if you felt inclined then remove it completely.

The reason for this is that for the new gauge to display the gear correctly, it needs to know (via the adapter) the actual engine rpm and final drive speed at the output of the gearbox. Since speedo healer changes the output speed signal to make the clocks read correctly, then it would falsify the gear calcs.

The adapter has a speed correction function, but this is applied after the un-molested engine signals have been used to work out the gearbox gear.
Ok gotcha. Now, is the speedo healing feature done by %, like most healers? In other words, could I take my old % and just plug it in? In the pic you posted of the program, it looks like you have presets for different bikes.

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Ok guys I'm Super interested but I need some answers, and Ill give my situation as well.

Situation:
- I know 0 about how the speedo and tacho work etc.
- I am about to buy my first zx636 2003 model. It is a track only bike.
- I am going to inspect this bike in less than 1 week, and will buy on the day if all is good.
- Sorry if the questions are dumb I'm new to this

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1). Assuming this bike has the crappy stock display cluster, what is needed for the conversion... is it literally just buy, remove old, plug in new (after the computer part) and I'm good to go?
2). Will you post to Australia? postage estimate (any currency, Ill just convert lol save you the effort)
3). Is it rain/waterproof... can I wash the bike and let it sit in rain (i try to avoid it) without worry...?
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Ok guys I'm Super interested but I need some answers, and Ill give my situation as well.

Situation:
- I know 0 about how the speedo and tacho work etc.
- I am about to buy my first zx636 2003 model. It is a track only bike.
- I am going to inspect this bike in less than 1 week, and will buy on the day if all is good.
- Sorry if the questions are dumb I'm new to this

Questions:
1). Assuming this bike has the crappy stock display cluster, what is needed for the conversion... is it literally just buy, remove old, plug in new (after the computer part) and I'm good to go?
2). Will you post to Australia? postage estimate (any currency, Ill just convert lol save you the effort)
3). Is it rain/waterproof... can I wash the bike and let it sit in rain (i try to avoid it) without worry...?
1. Yes
2. Yes (though Oz post is lousy, even with tracking
3. Yes adapter is sealed except for mini USB and in/out connectors.

PM me with your email address for a paypal invoice of the relevant amount.
You should probably buy the bike first tho, and source a new gauge
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I'm still interested... just trying to find a cluster
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I'm still interested... just trying to find a cluster
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OK now I really feel stupid, so i read all/most of the posts, and ur selling the adapter.
I have to buy your adapter,
Buy a (for eg) 07-08 gauge (i assume the face bit with some cords in the back?)
then rip mine off, plug yours into the 07 - 08 thing, and then put those two on the bike, and then its done?

Sorry to appear thick I just dont get half the terminology yet .

But thanks for the help
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Yea, its just the adapter you get.
But its a plug and play solution without any of the wiring hassle.
And you get all the function of the new speedo, and a speedo healer.
I post the adapter and a USB cable, you can download the PC app from a Google docs link to my account.
The app only works for PC (XP up to current OS), there is no MAC app. (Engineers don't really do MAC).
Payment is by Paypal. You have to PM me your details as I'm not broadcasting them on here for every junk mail bot to pick up....
As far as the OS X thing...

On the user end there are plenty of emulators for running PC programs on your mac. I use PlayOnMac for the small stuff and have a virtual machine with a copy of XP for the bigger stuff.


On the developer end, this is why every large OS maker needs to just adopt their systems to be POSIX compliant. I like that OS X doesn't require me to think for basic use. I do have Windows for my coding fun though. And then there is Linux...

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Install sounds simple. Is ther any way I could see instructions before purchase? I'm still looking for a cluster
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Does this work on an '04 6RR?
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could this be done with this guage and the 2004 gen 1 zx10r? same guage is on the 10 now, the newer guage read outs would be nice. ski
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Zx10s don't rev high enough

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Install sounds simple. Is ther any way I could see instructions before purchase? I'm still looking for a cluster
Yes, you can see the instructions and download the app here:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B_v...DEyZzBVMW1oaG8

The app needs an adapter to be plugged in for interactive use, but you'll get the idea.
Note that you need to install some Microsoft library files first. See readme file.
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could this be done with this guage and the 2004 gen 1 zx10r? same guage is on the 10 now, the newer guage read outs would be nice. ski
I guess this would work fine on a ZX10R.
The app lets you set custom gearbox ratios - it uses this info for working out what gear your in. You would need to look these up in the Kawasaki service manual and enter them all into the app gear settings.

I have a bunch of defaults linked into a bike/year selection box.
I guess I could expand this to cover the ZX10R

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