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Old 09-09-2012, 02:33 PM   #1
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06 636 valve adjustment

whats up guys.. i just took my bike to my mechanic to put on new tires and what do you know they install the tires and after that shit the mechanic goes to start the bike and the bike just churps doesn't want to turn on so after 3 or 4 trys bike turns on takes it for a test ride says valves need to be adjusted and full service is recommended... so i said alright how much he says $500 he said i would not even ride it till this service is done.. so i just left the bike there he also turned on another kawasaki 636 and said listen to this bike compared to yours and i can hear the difference... also having him install a APE manual CT. i swear all the bikes he was servicing at hes shop 8 out of 10 bikes were kawasaki also he let me know after this service every 10k miles the full service needs to be done sounds right guys? my bike has 18k miles on it.. i took my bike to hes shop like 2 1/2 months ago and he test drove it which at the time my bike was at 15800 miles he said every sounded really good... so i let him know that wow in like 2900 miles this shit happened crazy... so he went on and on about how hes judgement is usually on the ball and he must have been high LOL!!! any ways ill give you guys feed back once i get my bike back. see how she runs and feels
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Old 09-09-2012, 03:24 PM   #2
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What's the name of the shop? According to your miles it does seem you need your valves checked. I would be cautious about installing a manual CCT there is a lot of mixed reviews. Just make sure you stay on top of adjusting it.
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Old 09-09-2012, 05:35 PM   #3
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oh and i have a power commander on there with a TB dual exhaust and K&N air filter he said he is gonna remove it... its pointless unless you go on track and you have all this work done to your bikes engine... so hes like i bet you are losing power instead of gaining anything... and i forgot to ask will my bike not run lean..? gonna call him on monday and see what he says.. yeah gonna stay on top of the adjustments.
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Old 09-09-2012, 05:51 PM   #4
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Well I'm done trying to help.
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Old 09-09-2012, 06:13 PM   #5
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gemini motorsport is the shops name in pacoima why you done helping lol?
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Old 09-10-2012, 09:57 PM   #6
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its so wierd how the minute i get there after he installs my tires my bike did not want to start up lol it took 4 try's for it to start LOL!!! talk about SOL!
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im guessing Hitman's done trying to help, as it sounds like you're being taken for a ride. Why did the mechanic start the bike? Does none of this sound very suspect? Consider getting a second opinion?

removing parts? wth.. and you make it sound like he's doing you a favour and all...



let us know what the final bill for this tyre change is - sounds crazy
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its so wierd how the minute i get there after he installs my tires my bike did not want to start up lol it took 4 try's for it to start LOL!!! talk about SOL!
ru serious

Some guys been alone with ur bike for almost an hr?, then attempts to start it in front of you, and chalks up the hesitation to valve Clearance out of spec...
He could be right

You sir are an ATM. I hope you got some video of how ur bike sounds..so you can compare when he's finished,

I'm assuming he's changing ur spark plugs and shit while he's in there...and you should have your bike back by tomorrow
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oh and i have a power commander on there with a TB dual exhaust and K&N air filter he said he is gonna remove it... its pointless unless you go on track and you have all this work done to your bikes engine... so hes like i bet you are losing power instead of gaining anything... and i forgot to ask will my bike not run lean..? gonna call him on monday and see what he says.. yeah gonna stay on top of the adjustments.
What a crock of shit. First the power commander if it has been custom tuned your bike should be running better than stock. So a exhaust is only good for the track? Or a power commander? Ask him his reason on this and he said he will take it off. Did he ask you first on what you think or want him to take it off. Not someone I'd want to take my bike to or even touch my bike .

Seriously I'd recommend finding another place.
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This mechanic is fucking ur ass
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:49 PM   #11
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well he turned on another 636 an 05 one and he had me listen to the sound difference and said my shit is prob losing compression... he said my valves are prob out of spec do to the fact he took it for a test ride after he installed the tires.... i took the bike in at 15k he said bike running fine... i am at 18k and he said that its out of spec... so i let him know i was here 2 months ago and he told me the bike was running fine so in 2.8 miles shit got fucked up? hes like i must have been high that day or something my judgement is usually dead on.. so i said alright the total bill as of now is $558 with an APE manual CCT.

but my bike is salvage tittle and who knows if the previous "owners" took good care of it... so for that sake i had him just do the service he recommended... which is bleeding the brake lines, spark plugs, valve adjustment, something to the throttle bodies which i forget what he said and shit load of other shit... oil change ect.. no extra charge for shim replacements.. he has had the bike for 3 days already he said i might get it tomorrow... will see.

but yeah hes taking of the power commander 3 that i paid 295 bucks for.. told me to go sell it..
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$558 for tires, install, Manual CCT, valve adjustment, spark plugs, brake fluid, brake flush, oil is a pretty good deal. hope he's not just sitting on your bike for 3 days and saying he did everything.

After he's done charging you, take it to another mechanic to verify anythings been done.


Oh, and the point of the PC3 is to add more fuel to compensate for the increased air flow in and out of your motor. You can remove it if you want but you'll be running incredibly lean and it will be detrimental to the health of your motor. Have fun with that, your mechanic is an idiot =)
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:18 PM   #13
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thats what i thought.... i am gonna talk to him again about that pc3.... but anyways i forgot to mention he said he had 3 other bikes that needed that same service thats why he needed all this time to get to my bike or else the service will take him about 5 hours.. yeah he said i would not even drive the bike back home LOL! as far as the pc3 again he said its not necessary unless you have done all this crazy work to your motor and using it for track.. not just for a slip on and air filter. GG.
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Yes you need a power commander for a air filter and slip on. You will be running lean and I'm sure that when he does take it off you will have a flat/dead spot somewhere in your rpm range and def a loss of power.

This is what I recommend. Don't take anything off. If you want to take his shit advice I'll help you make it easier. Go and get the stock map for your bike via downloadable of the dynojet website. And install it on your pc3. Start the bike and listen. Notice anything different? If not take for a quick ride and make sure you go through the whole powerband. Notice lag of acceleration or stall at a certain spot? Do this and make sure you have a copy on your computer of the custom tune so you can put it back on because I can't see you keeping your bike stock map.

Also the other bikes and how they sound different than your bike... first it's probably because they have a different exhaust than you. Are they the same year and model? Also your valves must be way off tell that you need a valve job. Ask people here if they could tell they needed a valve job done by how the bike sounded? I bet you won't get the answer yes. Also maybe the idle isn't the same on the bikes. I'm sure iif they have aftermarket exhaust on they have a power commander also. Every bike even same year and make won't have the same custom map even on the same dyno and same tuner.

All I can say where he gets the idea of the exhaust and power commander being only good for track is that's what exhaust and power commanders site say.. they say they are for track use.. because they give you performance. Also people don't like how stock exhaust looks or sound.. why almost 99% buy an aftermarket exhaust.

Get another mechanic. 5 hours to do a valve job, bleeding breaks, oil change, TB, spark plugs, ape manual cct and tons others for that price too?

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Yes you need a power commander for a air filter and slip on. You will be running lean and I'm sure that when he does take it off you will have a flat/dead spot somewhere in your rpm range and def a loss of power.

This is what I recommend. Don't take anything off. If you want to take his shit advice I'll help you make it easier. Go and get the stock map for your bike via downloadable of the dynojet website. And install it on your pc3. Start the bike and listen. Notice anything different? If not take for a quick ride and make sure you go through the whole powerband. Notice lag of acceleration or stall at a certain spot? Do this and make sure you have a copy on your computer of the custom tune so you can put it back on because I can't see you keeping your bike stock map.

Also the other bikes and how they sound different than your bike... first it's probably because they have a different exhaust than you. Are they the same year and model? Also your valves must be way off tell that you need a valve job. Ask people here if they could tell they needed a valve job done by how the bike sounded? I bet you won't get the answer yes. Also maybe the idle isn't the same on the bikes. I'm sure iif they have aftermarket exhaust on they have a power commander also. Every bike even same year and make won't have the same custom map even on the same dyno and same tuner.

All I can say where he gets the idea of the exhaust and power commander being only good for track is that's what exhaust and power commanders site say.. they say they are for track use.. because they give you performance. Also people don't like how stock exhaust looks or sound.. why almost 99% buy an aftermarket exhaust.

Get another mechanic. 5 hours to do a valve job, bleeding breaks, oil change, TB, spark plugs, ape manual cct and tons others for that price too?

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